That's what I meant by once out of the tees it should be more or less equal. We can't make a first drive like you all. Maybe on longer holes guys might be at a 1 stroke advantage or so depending on how somebody would have to adjust with irons? That's a question - I don't play golf enough to know.

I think you are selling LPGA players short. I would venture to guess Nelly and Scottie have very similar handicaps.

Well since they're pros I don't think they technically have handicaps, but I highly doubt that their indexes would be comparable if they actually kept them. I mean, the courses of PGA events always play longer/tougher than the highest course/slope ratings on the scorecard, and Golf.com says that Scheffler was at a +8 or something ridiculous when they calculated his handicap based on his event scores early last year. And on this run he's gotta be in the double digits. Whereas LPGA events are played from basically the white tees of most courses, and some cursory index calculating using Nelly's scores from last week puts her at a +4, and that course played as one of the longest on the LPGA schedule.

Nelly's still great, and I'm a big fan, but I think it is way more dominant to be winning 4 out of 5 on insanely difficult courses against a field where everyone in contention is a +5 or better than it is to win 5 straight from the white tees against a field with maybe one or two other players at a level like Nelly's.

I'm seeing a graphic that has Nelly's stock driver yardage at 250. There are guys on tour that hit that with their 4 iron, so if she's making a cut at a PGA event it would have to be at a shorter course like Harbour Town or TPC River Highlands, but even that's still 6800 yards.

According to the LPGA Tour, Korda's average driving distance in 2024 stands at 264.74 yards (ranked 33).

Again, I'm not saying she, or any LPGA player can compete with the men on the PGA tour. But most of you continually sell the LPGA players short on their ability.

Again, I'm not saying she, or any LPGA player can compete with the men on the PGA tour. But most of you continually sell the LPGA players short on their ability.

I wonder what Scottie's index would be if he got to play 6400 yard resort courses almost exclusively. Maybe he'll join LIV so we can find out.

I must've been looking at an old graphic, but I don't think it's selling anyone's skill short to say that dominance in the PGA tour is more impressive than slightly even more dominance on the LPGA. We've established that the courses and conditions aren't the same, and I really don't think the argument can be made that the field in an LPGA event is comparable in golfing skill to a PGA Tour field.

But I don't think this is a "high school soccer team clowns USWNT in scrimmage" kind of deal, either. LPGA Tour pros are clearly elite golfers.

Well for purposes of this discussion , their ability IS short. July is claiming that one person currently dominating their sport against players of lesser skill on easier courses is well ackshually a better example of dominance than a person dominating the same sport in harder conditions against better players.

You don't understand high-level golf either -"lesser skill on easier courses" shows you don't have a clue.

I’m pretty confident in saying that Scheffler would literally win every event he entered on the LPGA tour against their players while Nelly Korda wouldnt make a cut on the PGA tour but other than that , you are correct they’re pretty much the same player.

I'm not surprised that someone who can't break 100 is missing the point of my argument.

I'm not surprised that someone who can't break 100 is missing the point of my argument.

Where’d you play your golf?!

I don't think you understand how handicapping in golf works. PGA v. LPGA on the same course, playing from the appropriate set of tees wouldn't be the beatdown you think it would.

I played today and shot a 103.

I don’t think I could beat this Nelly lady, even if I were to identify as a trans golfer.

I fully addressed the " point" you were trying to make and LO of the biggest L's at "insulting" my golf game in order to try and win an internet argument. I'll be on TV plying my wares same time you are champ.

Sarah Spain

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Will Spain hire July?