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| Author: | doug - evergreen park [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: it will be misused by the government if we passively accept it. you just described the past 51 weeks. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: it will be misused by the government if we passively accept it. You won't go to a Sox game soon anyway. Why worry about what might happen to somebody else's phone number?
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Terry's Peeps wrote: So you'll get a call if someone gets sick. Ignore it and move on if you want. I don't want a call. I don't need to know if anyone is sick. And I don't want anyone to know if I'm sick. It's not their business. I'm not making a big deal about it. They can run their business the way they want. I can find other things to do. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Terry's Peeps wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: You're a knob. I'm not going to shit up a Sox thread for a meeting you won't attend anyway. Sorry all. I'm not sure why objecting to their bizarre COVID "plan" is making you this irrationally angry, but have at it. How is the plan bizarre? All these plans are bizarre. Look you can't eat in a restaurant indoors, you can eat outdoors though, in a sealed, heated tent... indoors. You can sit in that indoors tent without a mask to eat, but you cannot sit in an outdoors stadium that holds 47k, but only admits 12k, but only with a mask when you're sure to be outdoors 6 feet from anyone which was the original requirement.... 6 feet. Initially masks were riskier because people fiddled with masks and caused unintended exposure, now we are starting to see requirements that we wear masks in unintended ways which certainly won't cause them to be fiddled with. None of it makes much sense. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
If the government knows your name, they know your phone number. Just search your name on zabasearch.... |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Ok. I'll enjoy the game without you guys. |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Frank Coztansa wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: it will be misused by the government if we passively accept it. You won't go to a Sox game soon anyway. Why worry about what might happen to somebody else's phone number?Clearly it's objecting to the practice, and to the creepy oversight of "contact tracing". What's the next step? Mandatory quarantines and fines? This is all performative claptrap that doesn't make anyone safer. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
There are zero penalties for failing to comply with contact tracers. At least as far as I know. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: So you'll get a call if someone gets sick. Ignore it and move on if you want. I don't want a call. I don't need to know if anyone is sick. And I don't want anyone to know if I'm sick. It's not their business. I'm not making a big deal about it. They can run their business the way they want. I can find other things to do.  I wonder if your ticket rep will contact you about this upcoming season
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Terry's Peeps wrote: There are zero penalties for failing to comply with contact tracers. At least as far as I know. I don't know if there are yet, but I know that the city set-up cameras all over to send tickets if you go 6 mph over the speed limit. So that's usually the next step. |
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: So you'll get a call if someone gets sick. Ignore it and move on if you want. I don't want a call. I don't need to know if anyone is sick. And I don't want anyone to know if I'm sick. It's not their business. I'm not making a big deal about it. They can run their business the way they want. I can find other things to do. I wonder if your ticket rep will contact you about this upcoming seasonThey already have been, and this was before they knew what the policy was going to be. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
It's cool, dude. You can wear the same face covering you wore the last time you went to a Sox game. 
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| Author: | Furious Styles [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
It's easier to talk shit about spanky with a mask on. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Furious Styles wrote: It's easier to talk shit about spanky with a mask on.
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| Author: | WaitingforRuffcorn [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:58 pm ] |
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Frank Coztansa wrote: It's cool, dude. You can wear the same face covering you wore the last time you went to a Sox game. A rain coat? |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
the contact tracing seems a bit excessive Honestly i'm kina surprised they aren't requiring proof of vaccine, proof of recent negative test, or even a temp check |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: WaitingforRuffcorn wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: You're a knob. I'm not going to shit up a Sox thread for a meeting you won't attend anyway. Sorry all. I'm not sure why objecting to their bizarre COVID "plan" is making you this irrationally angry, but have at it. How is the plan bizarre? What evidence is there that COVID is being spread at outdoor events? None that I know. Why 20 percent? Seem arbitrary. The other measures are for show. Cashless transactions. What evidence is there that it's spread through the surface of money? You can eat food made by a worker but don't use cash? It makes no sense. And the contact tracing part is creepy, and it will be misused by the government if we passively accept it. Have you seen the video of the lady in the drive thru with no mask? They won't give her the food and offered to HAND HER a mask in order to HAND HER the food. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Bagels wrote: the contact tracing seems a bit excessive I don't disagree, but I don't think thats a Cubs or Sox thing.Either way, you have to give them your ph# and email address to get a ticket anyway. If people like Jorr choose not to attend a game for the time being, that cool. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
I understand if people are scared. As long as the rest of us can go out and enjoy a game, everyone wins. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
And really, did anybody expect that it would be a free for all at Cubs/Sox games right away? I figured there would absolutely be limited exits/entrances, pod seating, etc. Similar to what NFL teams had done this past season. My one hope was that masks would not be required when you are in your seat. I doubt it will be this way all season. I bet by August it could be nearly 50% attendance. Maybe slightly less at Wrigley only because its a smaller park with fewer entrance/exit options. IMO 50-50 on masks going away this season, as much as that sucks. |
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| Author: | Joe Orr Road Rod [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: So you'll get a call if someone gets sick. Ignore it and move on if you want. I don't want a call. I don't need to know if anyone is sick. And I don't want anyone to know if I'm sick. It's not their business. I'm not making a big deal about it. They can run their business the way they want. I can find other things to do. I wonder if your ticket rep will contact you about this upcoming seasonI'm sure he will. They're holding my money from last year. I just don't have any interest into attending games under those terms. |
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| Author: | Nardi [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Terry's Peeps wrote: I understand if people are scared. As long as the rest of us can go out and enjoy a game, everyone wins. It's a small price to pay to see baseball for the first time in 2 years. I've worn the placebo for a year anyway. Now, I just have to wear the Party approved placebo. As far as privacy, there hasn't been any since the iPhone was invented. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:24 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I'm sure he will. They're holding my money from last year. I just don't have any interest into attending games under those terms. Make foul pole to foul pole maskless. There's concessions and restrooms out there, and you can enter at LF and exit at RF.
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| Author: | Darkside [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Darkside wrote: All these plans are bizarre. Look you can't eat in a restaurant indoors, you can eat outdoors though, in a sealed, heated tent... indoors. You can sit in that indoors tent without a mask to eat, but you cannot sit in an outdoors stadium that holds 47k, but only admits 12k, but only with a mask when you're sure to be outdoors 6 feet from anyone which was the original requirement.... 6 feet. Initially masks were riskier because people fiddled with masks and caused unintended exposure, now we are starting to see requirements that we wear masks in unintended ways which certainly won't cause them to be fiddled with. None of it makes much sense. Building on this... why do we limit the number of doors into buildings during this pandemic? Seems bottlenecking more people into smaller spaces is the wrong thing to do? Why not have all exits open? When I go to woodmans, they have hand sanitizer and wipes at the entrance to wipe down your cart handle but they absolutely expect that you leave your cart at checkout and take the one the last customer left. It's faster sure. But it forces us to take a cart that someone else was handling for the last half hour. Teachers who aren't going into work are getting vaccines before workers who enter several homes a day and are constantly exposed. And we're ranking just how essential people are based loosely on their professions. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:27 pm ] |
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Honestly, I'm surprised there hasn't been a fire that results in MANY deaths because a door is locked or chained due to not being allowed to be used. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Unfortunately, there will probably be some issues with people telling on other fans for not wearing the masks. When you give the "wear the mask, unless you're eating or drinking" a lot of people (including myself at the office) take that as a sign to not wear it at all when i have a drink at my desk (always) I know it says actively eating or drinking but people will leave it off. Hopefully the tattle tale types will just stay away. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
When in your seat, outdoors, and at least 6' away from other people (you could probably easily do 10' at most MLB parks), a mask shouldn't be required anyway. |
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| Author: | FrankDrebin [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: So you'll get a call if someone gets sick. Ignore it and move on if you want. I don't want a call. I don't need to know if anyone is sick. And I don't want anyone to know if I'm sick. It's not their business. I'm not making a big deal about it. They can run their business the way they want. I can find other things to do. This. I can sit in front of my big screen tv (no pants on of course), wearing no mask and eat and drink freely while wearing a baseball game. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
Frank Coztansa wrote: When in your seat, outdoors, and at least 6' away from other people (you could probably easily do 10' at most MLB parks), a mask shouldn't be required anyway. Obviously. I would say no masks outdoors at all, if I were King. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: •Sat Mar 28•1pm• Subdivision Sox meetup |
FrankDrebin wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Terry's Peeps wrote: So you'll get a call if someone gets sick. Ignore it and move on if you want. I don't want a call. I don't need to know if anyone is sick. And I don't want anyone to know if I'm sick. It's not their business. I'm not making a big deal about it. They can run their business the way they want. I can find other things to do. This. I can sit in front of my big screen tv (no pants on of course), wearing no mask and eat and drink freely while wearing a baseball game. Enjoy wearing your baseball game. |
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