Mediocre White Man wrote:
The Hawk wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
still not buying it
???? What are you not "buying"?
Bros...I'm anti-military per se; I donate to veteran nonprofits and have a buddy from business school who did a stint in the Navy. But Vietnam? That was just… bad ROI. The war reads like a classic example of sunk cost fallacy, wrapped in Cold War FOMO. Domino theory? Sounds like a flimsy strategic model—something a pre-MBA intern would’ve pitched and gotten rejected in a strategy deck.
And then there’s the cultural memory of it all. The grainy footage, the Pentagon Papers, the “I served in 'Nam” boomer at every Thanksgiving. For me, Vietnam isn't just a war—it’s an inefficient legacy system that never got the sunset memo. Kind of like COBOL.
Plus, there’s this vibe I can't get past that the war ruined the American brand for a while—military force as a product lost credibility. I can't help but view it through the lens of reputation management. It’s like launching a product too early, without QA testing, and then doubling down on PR spin when the user base revolts.
In short, Vietnam is the kind of farce that makes me say, “Could’ve been avoided with better stakeholder alignment and a data-driven strategy.”
Sorry I guess for you to have to experience some grainy footage and maybe a combat veteran who was disturbing your Thanksgiving dinner with a statement that he served in Vietnam. I guess you went out of your way to put up with the veteran who disturbed the hell out of your meal. It is mind boggling how people like you can take such a summarily judgemental view of war and the people who fought it and were actually vilified for doing it notwithstanding your self righteous claim about donating to veteran nonprofits and allowing yourself to "have a Navy buddy"
So, "Bro"(sic) Sorry for your having to experience your bad dinners and not being able to cope with the "bad vibes". And pardon me that the Vietnam war messed with your notion that it "ruined your idea of what the American brand" was in your mind.
I have to say, "Bro" that it must wonderful for you to be so immersed in your own mind that people can somehow time travel back into time and be graced with your assessment that all would be erased by BETTER STAKEHOLDER ALIGNMENT AND A DATA DRIVEN STRATEGY
Truly an amazing take as is your other one about enemies using MILITARY FORCE as a strategy losing credibility? The fact of the matter is that the Vietnam war was decided by Dumb fuck people who fought a war that they were not prepared to win. Kennedy was likely killed by those same assholes. Those same people betrayed the soldiers who fought in that war and then helped to disparage those same people. And the self righteous SOBS who second guessed and mocked those served are still around and still judging things that they have no concept of what actually happened. BAD VIBES INDEED!