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Marve is a was a complete D-bag jackass when he was at Miami. The day they cut him loose was a glorious day. I'm sure he is better than he was, but that's not saying much considering just how much of a tool he was.

Rick- What did you think of Purdue using Henry for some running plays, I think they could use Siler for some of those plays also. I do wish Purdue hadn't lost Bolden, he would have helped a lot yesterday, of course I'm not sure about the offensive line.

if purdue wide receivers could catch that outcome may have been slightly different...

I'd worry about Marve being (ironically) somewhat Cutlerish, both in attitude and in on-field performance.

Also, don't take a 15 yard penalty by celebrating a touchdown when we are losing. It's a dumb rule but you need to be smarter.

The thing that stuck out to me with Marve was his decision making. He would roll out and throw back over the middle of the field and do things that if he tries to do consistently in the Big 10 he is going to get in trouble.

Keith Smith out for the year with a torn MCL/ACL. It happened early enough in the year that he may be granted a sixth year of eligibility. I don't know how likely that is. It sucks for him because with a good year he was definitely going somewhere in the NFL draft in my opinion.

At least in the spread offense you can make up a loss like this but it hurts the Rose Bowl hopes. :lol:

getting that backup QB playing time in non-conference play is pretty important, IMHO. NU got to do it in the 4Q of the Rice game, but all they did was do frickin' hand offs. I get that they are trying to run out the clock, but I kinda feel like he needs to get more confidence throwing the ball.

Seasons over. Sounds like Robert Marve could be gone for a long time.

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Seasons over. Sounds like Robert Marve could be gone for a long time.

What did the pretty boy do this time?

Rick, I didn't think their backup QB looked too bad last week. Is he just stinking the place up today? 0 points vs. Toledo in a half is pretty bad.

Time to send out a message to Mike Leach's people.

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Time to send out a message to Mike Leach's people.

Tounge in cheek? Or is Leach someone you would be interested in?

Author:	Brick [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:41 am ]
Post subject:	Purdue Boilermakers
Since Irish Boy hates me, he never did a preview for them. Therefore, I have to create this thread. I'm concerned about Robert Marve. He clearly has talent. I love how he can make plays with his legs. Unless the offensive line plays significantly better he's going to need all the running ability. However, I just have a feeling that he'll make great plays instead of being a great player. They need the QB to be great to have a chance. It's only one game though but he reminds more of past QB's like Brandon Kirsch and Brandon Hance and less like Kyle Orton and Drew Brees. Also, don't take a 15 yard penalty by celebrating a touchdown when we are losing. It's a dumb rule but you need to be smarter. Injuries to the running backs really hurt. Ralph Bolden needs to get back as quick as possible. The offense is completely different with him in the game. McBurse has battled injuries all throughout training camp and hopefully that is why he looked bad. No offense to Dan Dierking, but things aren't going to go well for us if you are getting the carries. He's developed into a halfway decent running back but we need Bolden or McBurse to do anything this year. I was pleasantly surprised by the defense. Obviously they could have done better against the running backs but given Notre Dame's quality talent at WR and the inexperience of the secondary they did a pretty good job. Ryan Kerrigan is a stud. Now they need to win the next 3 against teams they should not only beat but beat by 2 touchdowns. I'll stick with my prediction of an 8-5 season.

Author:	Urlacher's missing neck [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:48 am ]
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Marve is a was a complete D-bag jackass when he was at Miami. The day they cut him loose was a glorious day. I'm sure he is better than he was, but that's not saying much considering just how much of a tool he was.

Author:	reents [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:50 am ]
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Rick- What did you think of Purdue using Henry for some running plays, I think they could use Siler for some of those plays also. I do wish Purdue hadn't lost Bolden, he would have helped a lot yesterday, of course I'm not sure about the offensive line. Defense looked good, except on some of the running plays. The big thing to me is if Michael Floyd doesn't fumble near the endzone, how would that game have turned out yesterday, would it have been real ugly.

Author:	doug - evergreen park [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:51 am ]
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Kerrigan is badass. he's a top 15 NFL pick imo. if purdue wide receivers could catch that outcome may have been slightly different...

Author:	Brick [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:58 am ]
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote: Marve is a was a complete D-bag jackass when he was at Miami. The day they cut him loose was a glorious day. I'm sure he is better than he was, but that's not saying much considering just how much of a tool he was. I agree. Supposedly, he's matured a lot. Then again, what are they going to say? "Marve is still a huge pain in the ass"? reents wrote: Rick- What did you think of Purdue using Henry for some running plays, I think they could use Siler for some of those plays also. I do wish Purdue hadn't lost Bolden, he would have helped a lot yesterday, of course I'm not sure about the offensive line. I've been a big Henry fan since he came to Purdue. While I'm not saying he's Drew Brees, he reminded me of him. I'd love to see him get some plays and see what happens. Marve is the clear #1 though. doug - evergreen park wrote: if purdue wide receivers could catch that outcome may have been slightly different... That's the standard operating procedure when Purdue plays at Notre Dame. I have no idea why but it seems like the stage is too big for them.

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Author:	Irish Boy [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:00 am ]
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I think Purdue is fine, they played well against a more talented team, lost a loseable game on their schedule, and a 7-5 type year is still on track. I'd worry about Marve being (ironically) somewhat Cutlerish, both in attitude and in on-field performance.

Author:	Brick [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:04 am ]
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Irish Boy wrote: I'd worry about Marve being (ironically) somewhat Cutlerish, both in attitude and in on-field performance. I was thinking the same thing. I just wanted to avoid taking another shot at Cutler.

Author:	Brick [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:11 am ]
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Danny Hope said that as many as 20 players saw their first ever game action. Add in the fact that two players, Marve and Siller, that Purdue is really counting on this year missed all of last season and hadn't played a real game since 2008 and there is some hope that things will go more smoothly after this. The schedule is now quite favorable for getting all of them time.

Author:	KDdidit [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:41 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Also, don't take a 15 yard penalty by celebrating a touchdown when we are losing. It's a dumb rule but you need to be smarter. And at least get your 15 yards worth. It was an ugly jump that he didn't even start until he was already in the end zone.

Author:	RFDC [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:44 pm ]
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I was impressed with Kerrigan as well. The thing that stuck out to me with Marve was his decision making. He would roll out and throw back over the middle of the field and do things that if he tries to do consistently in the Big 10 he is going to get in trouble.

Author:	Brick [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:10 pm ]
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RFDC wrote: The thing that stuck out to me with Marve was his decision making. He would roll out and throw back over the middle of the field and do things that if he tries to do consistently in the Big 10 he is going to get in trouble. I agree. That is concerning. At least he was doing that against a seemingly above average defense and it didn't become a major problem.

Author:	My_name_1s_MUD [ Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:39 pm ]
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I came away thinking that Purdue looked pretty good. Routes were a little sloppy and timing was off, but that stuff can be fixed as the season progresses. ND looked like the ND of old. They had decent pressure in the defensive middle and their corners did well. Manti Teo or whatever his name is lived up to the hype, I thought.

Author:	Brick [ Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:20 pm ]
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Keith Smith out for the year with a torn MCL/ACL. It happened early enough in the year that he may be granted a sixth year of eligibility. I don't know how likely that is. It sucks for him because with a good year he was definitely going somewhere in the NFL draft in my opinion. At least in the spread offense you can make up a loss like this but it hurts the Rose Bowl hopes.

Author:	Hawkeye Vince [ Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:59 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Keith Smith out for the year with a torn MCL/ACL. It happened early enough in the year that he may be granted a sixth year of eligibility. I don't know how likely that is. It sucks for him because with a good year he was definitely going somewhere in the NFL draft in my opinion. At least in the spread offense you can make up a loss like this but it hurts the Rose Bowl hopes. I liked that guy. Tough ass receiver. Tough break.

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Author:	Walt Williams Neck [ Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:04 pm ]
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Smith was the goods

Author:	My_name_1s_MUD [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:35 am ]
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I heard Marve injured his leg... is it serious, BR?

Author:	Spaulding [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:39 am ]
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Everything I can find said "we'll know more as the week moves on." I don't think any thing has been determined yet.

Author:	Brick [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:01 am ]
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Danny Hope said he thought he just tweaked it. Supposedly he had the flu. I haven't even watched the game yet. A win is a win I guess. I was at a wedding and the groom was a Purdue grad.

Author:	Brick [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:31 pm ]
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I find it very interesting how much time they are giving Rob Henry. While Marve was hurt, he probably could have played but it sounds like they were willing to give time to Henry against an opponent we should be beating. There is a rumor that Marve had the flu too. There isn't and won't be a QB controversy because it's Marve or bust this year but they really do seem to like getting Henry involved. I know I've seen plenty of two QB gameplans but most of them involve players of similar ability. This is a case where they have a clear #1 but still give the backup some time. I wonder if that will continue into Big Ten season.

Author:	My_name_1s_MUD [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:43 pm ]
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getting that backup QB playing time in non-conference play is pretty important, IMHO. NU got to do it in the 4Q of the Rice game, but all they did was do frickin' hand offs. I get that they are trying to run out the clock, but I kinda feel like he needs to get more confidence throwing the ball.

Author:	Brick [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:57 pm ]
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My_name_1s_MUD wrote: getting that backup QB playing time in non-conference play is pretty important, IMHO. NU got to do it in the 4Q of the Rice game, but all they did was do frickin' hand offs. I get that they are trying to run out the clock, but I kinda feel like he needs to get more confidence throwing the ball. He's gotten a pretty good amount of time in meaningful drives too though including Notre Dame when we were down but not out of it. It probably also helps keep Marve healthy as he likes to run also and he's battling some injuries already.

Author:	Brick [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:00 pm ]
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Seasons over. Sounds like Robert Marve could be gone for a long time.

Author:	Urlacher's missing neck [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:02 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Seasons over. Sounds like Robert Marve could be gone for a long time. What did the pretty boy do this time?

Author:	Brick [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:03 pm ]
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Seasons over. Sounds like Robert Marve could be gone for a long time. What did the pretty boy do this time? I can only listen on the radio but it sounds like he basically took a snap, fell over, and could barely put any weight on it, and was taken off the field.

Author:	Brick [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:45 pm ]
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So basically, Purdue has lost: It's starting QB. It's starting RB. It's backup RB. It's best WR. I think I need to be realistic and know that Purdue does not have the depth to compete when something like that happens. It's the difference between a program like Purdue and a program that has depth. Ohio State and Iowa and Wisconsin can overcome injuries because they have more talent. Start warming the seat for Danny Hope. This is too much like the last few years of Tiller for my tastes.

Author:	RFDC [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:52 pm ]
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Rick, I didn't think their backup QB looked too bad last week. Is he just stinking the place up today? 0 points vs. Toledo in a half is pretty bad.

Author:	Brick [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:56 pm ]
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RFDC wrote: Rick, I didn't think their backup QB looked too bad last week. Is he just stinking the place up today? 0 points vs. Toledo in a half is pretty bad. I'm only listening on the radio because I can't get the game anywhere. At least I can watch Wisconsin beat Austin Peay by 70 though! The problem with the backup QB seems to be that he can't throw. That makes it easy for the defense because they can just load up on the run and even a good mobile QB like Henry can be neutralized. They started off terribly but when Marve went down while also handing Toledo the ball like 10 yards from the end zone, and basically gave Toledo a 14 point lead I think the team was in shock. I'd like to hope that they would be mentally strong enough to overcome it but obviously not.

Author:	Brick [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:08 pm ]
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Unbelievable. Obviously, I want Danny Hope to succeed but this is too much like a continuation of the Tiller era(even though Tiller dominated against MAC teams). Time to send out a message to Mike Leach's people.

Author:	RFDC [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:12 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Time to send out a message to Mike Leach's people. Tounge in cheek? Or is Leach someone you would be interested in?

Author:	Brick [ Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:15 pm ]
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RFDC wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Time to send out a message to Mike Leach's people. Tounge in cheek? Or is Leach someone you would be interested in? I would. He would be a great fit for the style that Purdue wants to play. It's a little early to come up with my list of who I would want(and is realistic) but I am sure he would be on it with Kevin Sumlin.