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Author:  RFDC [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:40 pm ]
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Carpenter Claims OSU's Coach Fired Him For Wearing Rival's T-Shirt
By Claire Gordon, Posted Aug 17th 2011 @ 8:14AM


Oklahoma State Cowboys coach Mike Gundy is a passionate man. Since taking the reins of the 8th-ranked football team in the country, he has led it through nine-win consecutive seasons in 2008 and 2009 and a record 11-2 win last year. But Gundy still thinks the team needs to work on its defense, and is setting a personal example, allegedly firing his carpenter for simply showing up to work in an Oklahoma Sooner baseball tee.

The Oklahoma Cowboys and Oklahoma Sooners have a longstanding rivalry known as the Bedlam Series. Bedlam means "noisy uproar and confusion," which is exactly what happened here.

Last Thursday, Brent Loveland filed a breach-of-contract suit against Gundy and his wife Kristen for damages in excess of $10,000, the Tulsa World reported. In February, Gundy hired Loveland in a verbal contract to perform trim installation on his new house in Stillwater. When Loveland showed up for the first day on March 21, he was wearing the logo of Oklahoma University.

Loveland claimed he dressed in the dark.

Gundy did not take well to Loveland's sartorial choice. According to Loveland, Gundy confronted him and said, "How dare you come into my house and offend my wife?" When Loveland asked what he meant, Gundy shot back, "That [expletive] shirt you have on." He then allegedly told Loveland to "pack his [expletive] and get off [his] property."

This kind of impassioned outburst is not totally out-of-character for the former OS star quarterback. In a postgame interview in 2007, Gundy railed on a local columnist in the Daily Oklahoman for writing a piece critical of one of his players.

"That article had to have been written by a person that doesn't have a child," he shouted. "And has never had a child that had his heart broken and come home upset and had to deal with a child when he is upset."

He called the newspaper "garbage" and "the editor who let it come out is garbage."

This time, however, Gundy's fervent defense of his team could cost him real cash.

Loveland claims that he turned down a number of other construction jobs to work on Gundy's estate, losing more than $30,000 in potential income from the debacle.

In a statement released by Gundy's attorney, Willie Baker, an Oklahoma State graduate himself, Gundy is quoted as saying, "While I cannot discuss the specifics of pending litigation, I deny the allegations being made and welcome the opportunity to fully resolve the matter."

Loveland's lawyer, Edward White, insists this is no rivalry taken from the field to the courts. "I'm an OSU guy, so this is not a vendetta," he told the Stillwater News-Press. "This is simply a gentleman who's a small-business owner. He depends on his work for his livelihood and he didn't get paid for a job where he thinks he was unreasonably terminated."

If Gundy's loses the case, at least his bank account can handle the hit. His seven-year contract with Oklahoma State is worth $15.7 million




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Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:45 pm ]
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Well, I think we've found a bigger meatball football coach that Coachy Coacherson at NU

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:48 pm ]
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If you are doing $30,000 construction jobs why the hell would you get dressed in the dark? The coach may be a meatball, but the carpenter is a dumbass.

Author:  Irish Boy [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:04 pm ]
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Good for Gundy

Author:  Tall Midget [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:37 pm ]
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Irish Boy wrote:
Good for Gundy


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Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:53 pm ]
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Irish Boy wrote:
Good for Gundy


Good for him that he makes enough money to cover the damages. It's not really even a question of if but how much.

Author:  DAC [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:08 pm ]
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Irish Boy wrote:
Good for Gundy


I agree. What a frickin' idiot to think that he is going to come on to the property of the OSU football coach wearing an OU baseball t-shirt. Some people need to understand how important college rooting interests are.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:18 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Irish Boy wrote:
Good for Gundy


Good for him that he makes enough money to cover the damages. It's not really even a question of if but how much.
I agree. It's a funny story and as long as he's willing to pay the damages then good for him.

Author:  Irish Boy [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:24 pm ]
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If you were a vendor serving lunch at Coca-Cola HQ and you served Pepsi, you would never get another contract from Coca-Cola. If he didn't realize he was wearing the merchandise of the major rival of the head coach of OSU then he is beyond stupid and should be fired on that basis alone. Gundy's career depends, in large part, on how he does against Oklahoma.

As for the silly college sports swipe, I will only note that Gundy did not destroy millions of dollars of property, set fire to cars, or require riot police to keep him in abeyance, so it looks like the Hick Meatball of Stillwater is more sophisticated than Canuck fans. He will pay contract damages, and so it goes.

Author:  DAC [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:29 pm ]
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Irish Boy wrote:
As for the silly college sports swipe, I will only note that Gundy did not destroy millions of dollars of property, set fire to cars, or require riot police to keep him in abeyance, so it looks like the Hick Meatball of Stillwater is more sophisticated than Canuck fans. He will pay contract damages, and so it goes.


Twice now you have mentioned Vancouver fans to me. I don't understand what your point it. They are a bunch of fucking idiots!

Author:  Irish Boy [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:32 pm ]
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He also didn't shirtlessly parade down Michigan Avenue drinking Natty Ice on a workday in honor of a team he began cheering for in 2008.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:33 pm ]
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Irish Boy wrote:
If you were a vendor serving lunch at Coca-Cola HQ and you served Pepsi, you would never get another contract from Coca-Cola. If he didn't realize he was wearing the merchandise of the major rival of the head coach of OSU then he is beyond stupid and should be fired on that basis alone. Gundy's career depends, in large part, on how he does against Oklahoma.
Not to mention that if you understand what a rivalry is it is highly unlikely that this was just a random choice of clothing. He probably thought it would be hilarious to tell his friends and family that he wore this shirt to work on the football coaches house.

Author:  HOVA [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:40 pm ]
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Irish Boy wrote:
If you were a vendor serving lunch at Coca-Cola HQ and you served Pepsi, you would never get another contract from Coca-Cola. If he didn't realize he was wearing the merchandise of the major rival of the head coach of OSU then he is beyond stupid and should be fired on that basis alone. Gundy's career depends, in large part, on how he does against Oklahoma.

As for the silly college sports swipe, I will only note that Gundy did not destroy millions of dollars of property, set fire to cars, or require riot police to keep him in abeyance, so it looks like the Hick Meatball of Stillwater is more sophisticated than Canuck fans. He will pay contract damages, and so it goes.


Complete agree. It was stupid.

Author:  DAC [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:37 pm ]
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HOVA wrote:
Irish Boy wrote:
If you were a vendor serving lunch at Coca-Cola HQ and you served Pepsi, you would never get another contract from Coca-Cola. If he didn't realize he was wearing the merchandise of the major rival of the head coach of OSU then he is beyond stupid and should be fired on that basis alone. Gundy's career depends, in large part, on how he does against Oklahoma.

As for the silly college sports swipe, I will only note that Gundy did not destroy millions of dollars of property, set fire to cars, or require riot police to keep him in abeyance, so it looks like the Hick Meatball of Stillwater is more sophisticated than Canuck fans. He will pay contract damages, and so it goes.


Complete agree. It was stupid.


So who do think was the bigger idiot?
a) The carpenter who wore the t-shirt.
or
b) The head coach who fires him and gets sued which I think we'll all agree that he'll end up paying.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:34 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Irish Boy wrote:
If you were a vendor serving lunch at Coca-Cola HQ and you served Pepsi, you would never get another contract from Coca-Cola. If he didn't realize he was wearing the merchandise of the major rival of the head coach of OSU then he is beyond stupid and should be fired on that basis alone. Gundy's career depends, in large part, on how he does against Oklahoma.
Not to mention that if you understand what a rivalry is it is highly unlikely that this was just a random choice of clothing. He probably thought it would be hilarious to tell his friends and family that he wore this shirt to work on the football coaches house.


Big fucking deal. The primary concerns I have for a contractor coming into my house is that he does good work, shows up, isn't drunk or hung over when he does show up, gets the work in on budget and gets the work in on time. You'd be suprised how these factors alone limit who you should hire.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:38 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Big fucking deal. The primary concerns I have for a contractor coming into my house is that he does good work, shows up, isn't drunk or hung over when he does show up, gets the work in on budget and gets the work in on time. You'd be suprised how these factors alone limit who you should hire.
Aren't you the same guy that claims that local high school allegiances are constantly used in business in your area? I seem to remember you arguing with me when I was laughing that anyone cares what high school someone attended once you were in college.

Author:  HOVA [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:50 am ]
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DAC wrote:
HOVA wrote:
Irish Boy wrote:
If you were a vendor serving lunch at Coca-Cola HQ and you served Pepsi, you would never get another contract from Coca-Cola. If he didn't realize he was wearing the merchandise of the major rival of the head coach of OSU then he is beyond stupid and should be fired on that basis alone. Gundy's career depends, in large part, on how he does against Oklahoma.

As for the silly college sports swipe, I will only note that Gundy did not destroy millions of dollars of property, set fire to cars, or require riot police to keep him in abeyance, so it looks like the Hick Meatball of Stillwater is more sophisticated than Canuck fans. He will pay contract damages, and so it goes.


Complete agree. It was stupid.


So who do think was the bigger idiot?
a) The carpenter who wore the t-shirt.
or
b) The head coach who fires him and gets sued which I think we'll all agree that he'll end up paying.


The carpenter. The coach threw another bone to the fan base. The guy will only get a few thousand. He probably wipes his ass with that. Outside of OU fans there won't be many people seeking the services of this carpenter because of the stunt he pulled and the lawsuit.

Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:58 am ]
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Couldn't the carpenter just say he had no idea who Gundy was?

This whole story is horribly stupid.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:20 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Big fucking deal. The primary concerns I have for a contractor coming into my house is that he does good work, shows up, isn't drunk or hung over when he does show up, gets the work in on budget and gets the work in on time. You'd be suprised how these factors alone limit who you should hire.
Aren't you the same guy that claims that local high school allegiances are constantly used in business in your area? I seem to remember you arguing with me when I was laughing that anyone cares what high school someone attended once you were in college.


The point?

by the way, just had another instance of me being correct just last week with a nice six figure result, but I'm sure you'd like to rehash that argument

Author:  HOVA [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:22 am ]
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He's right and you're wrong. That was easy.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:41 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
The point?
The point is that you and the people in your neighborhood care about allegiance as much if not more than this guy. You tried to make it seem like you only care about how he performs his job. However, you seemingly believe that it's alright and acceptable to make business decisions based on high school affiliation. Why not just be concerned with the quality of work?
good dolphin wrote:
by the way, just had another instance of me being correct just last week with a nice six figure result, but I'm sure you'd like to rehash that argument
Sure. I think it's very rare that stuff like this happens that high school affiliation matters for those who are otherwise unconnected. Now, if you guys happened to be friends of a friend that's different. Congratulations though.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:03 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
The point?
The point is that you and the people in your neighborhood care about allegiance as much if not more than this guy. You tried to make it seem like you only care about how he performs his job. However, you seemingly believe that it's alright and acceptable to make business decisions based on high school affiliation. Why not just be concerned with the quality of work?.


Neighborhood? Quit displaying your lack of sophistication with the particulars of this topic.

I wouldn't hire someone if he was completely incapable of performing a job. I would give a person stronger consideration if he could both perform the job and had affiliations that I trusted. I think that was the point of another of your incessant arguments.

Applying that argument appropriately to this case, if the coach really valued affiliation he should have asked the OSU alumni association for a list of alums who were contractors or he could have asked one of the hundreds of boosters if the "had a guy".

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:12 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
[ I think .


Image

stick with what I know rather than what you think and you will go far

Author:  Brick [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:12 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
Neighborhood? Quit displaying your lack of sophistication with the particulars of this topic.
Didn't you tell me that many people who you live around also engage in this type of preferred treatment?
good dolphin wrote:
I wouldn't hire someone if he was completely incapable of performing a job. I would give a person stronger consideration if he could both perform the job and had affiliations that I trusted. I think that was the point of another of your incessant arguments.
So you would have no issue hiring someone who went to your rival high school? I seem to remember you indicating that you think high school affiliation is very important.
good dolphin wrote:
Applying that argument appropriately to this case, if the coach really valued affiliation he should have asked the OSU alumni association for a list of alums who were contractors or he could have asked one of the hundreds of boosters if the "had a guy".
That's probably true but at least he gave the guy a chance.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:19 am ]
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You fatigue me.

Author:  spanky [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:39 am ]
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good dolphin wrote:
You fatigue me.

He tends to have that effect on people.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:45 am ]
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spanky wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
You fatigue me.

He tends to have that effect on people.
If you think it's fatiguing to talk to me you should try being me. It's much worse.

Author:  spanky [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:10 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
spanky wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
You fatigue me.

He tends to have that effect on people.
If you think it's fatiguing to talk to me you should try being me. It's much worse.

That's probably true.

Author:  Spaulding [ Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:18 pm ]
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:lol:

How was his wife offended?

The contractor is a dipshit but will probably win the lawsuit. I've never thought of checking if the people that work on our house are Green Bay fans but I will now.

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:04 am ]
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They are fans of the locally famous tease move you do tradesmen at your house. Did you ever wonder why your pizza get delivered in 15 minutes since the at incident?

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