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Saturday 0208

Big card at Tampa featuring the Sam F. Davis with 20 points for the winner

7-Poster will get a lot of attention but I like the fact that Flavien Prat leaves that horse to get onto my choice, the 3-John Hancock. This horse won on debut and could be sitting on another big effort. Boxing him with 6-Owen Almighty

OscarTangoEcho wrote:

It's gonna be interesting to see what happens if Hawthorne doesn't get things straightened out with CDI prior to the Derby and all these once a year bettors show up at the OTBs trying to bet the Derby only to be told, "We aren't carrying the Kentucky Derby but you're more than welcome to bet Mahoning Valley or Delta Downs."

Here's a fun stat

The sire Volatile...First time starters on the dirt-55 starts/13 wins/22 in the money... +113% return on investment
Two such horses today

Race 4 the 5-Bundle 9/2 (Irad Ortiz/Asmussen) NOPE, DID NOT RUN
Race 6 the 8-Development Fee (Irad/Devaux) SHOULD HAVE BEEN RACE 7, MORON...AND NOPE DID NOT RUN

Also Regarding Chad Brown and Prat...they also team up in the 12th with the 3-Unit Economics NOPE, and in the 13th wit the 3-Ballerina d'oro (SCRATCHED)

OscarTangoEcho wrote:

and yet still alive in the Pick 5 to the 3 4 7 9 13

OscarTangoEcho wrote:

and yet still alive in the Pick 5 to the 3 4 7 9 13

Nice card at Oaklawn today

Rebel stakes I've got Madaket Road to take a big step on the trail...50 points awarded...I am concerned about him and the Derby distance but today should suit him fine

Race 10 the razorback the 2 banishing gets Prat aboard but will be chalky hoping to get a price on the 1Crupi or the 3 first mission

What did you guys think? Seen some people online thinking Irad botched the rebel. I was glad cause Coal Battle saved me from getting slaughtered today.

Big day of racing on tap…

San Felipe Stakes-Santa Anita 50 pts for the winner/25/15/10/5
Placed only hallway on the trail, this race has boasted 13 Derby Winners…Authentic won in 2020…

This is a chance to see JORR’s horse 2-Journalism who has had a nice start, but be facing stiff competition from the likes of 3-Barnes (Trained by Baffert, who has 3 of the 6 runners)…should be a really good finish between the two

EDIT: Journalism is for real

Fountain of Youth Stakes-Gulfstream Park (50 pts winner/25/15/10/5)
This race has produced 7 winners, but only two since 1995

Not sure if the 6-River Thames is up to the distance, but a quality horse none the less…the 1-Gate To Wire won the Swale convincingly but now adds a furlong and a half…3-Burnham Square (Ian Wilkes) might be my favorite early on in this Derby run…love how this guy finishes…Ive got him getting his picture taken

Burnham Square was a disappointment/River Thames got caught

Gotham Stakes-Aqueduct (50/25/20/15/10/5)
This race is 0-49 since 1980…kinda don’t care…No Lasix which will make for an interesting race...Mike Maker’s Calling Card ran well against another quality horse on the trail (Sandman) and has a win here locally

17-1 upset winner

and alive in the SA P5 to

3,7
1,6,8,12

cause I know you were wondering

OscarTangoEcho wrote:

and alive in the SA P5 to

3,7
1,6,8,12

cause I know you were wondering

Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:09 am ]
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3 Today, albeit with really low numbers involved Robert B Lewis Stakes-Santa Anita (20 points for the winner I really like Madakat Road as an early KD selection. Holy Bull Stakes-Gulfstream (20 points) Not sure of the price but I like Tappan Street to get his picture taken Withers Stakes-Aqueduct (20) No opinion here

Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Sat Feb 08, 2025 2:02 pm ]
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Saturday 0208 Big card at Tampa featuring the Sam F. Davis with 20 points for the winner 7-Poster will get a lot of attention but I like the fact that Flavien Prat leaves that horse to get onto my choice, the 3-John Hancock. This horse won on debut and could be sitting on another big effort. Boxing him with 6-Owen Almighty Raace7 on the undercard features a pretty tough cast including the 8-McCorvey (out of Curlin/Songbird for the cost of 1 Million). 4 races in today and prices abound.

Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:02 pm ]
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OscarTangoEcho wrote: Saturday 0208 Big card at Tampa featuring the Sam F. Davis with 20 points for the winner 7-Poster will get a lot of attention but I like the fact that Flavien Prat leaves that horse to get onto my choice, the 3-John Hancock. This horse won on debut and could be sitting on another big effort. Boxing him with 6-Owen Almighty

Author:	a retard [ Sun Feb 09, 2025 11:13 am ]
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OscarTangoEcho wrote: OscarTangoEcho wrote: Saturday 0208 Big card at Tampa featuring the Sam F. Davis with 20 points for the winner 7-Poster will get a lot of attention but I like the fact that Flavien Prat leaves that horse to get onto my choice, the 3-John Hancock. This horse won on debut and could be sitting on another big effort. Boxing him with 6-Owen Almighty

Author:	Walt Williams Neck [ Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:02 am ]
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The road is long and bumpy

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Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:10 am ]
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not unlike my dick

Author:	JORR [ Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:48 am ]
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It's gonna be interesting to see what happens if Hawthorne doesn't get things straightened out with CDI prior to the Derby and all these once a year bettors show up at the OTBs trying to bet the Derby only to be told, "We aren't carrying the Kentucky Derby but you're more than welcome to bet Mahoning Valley or Delta Downs."

Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:24 am ]
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Hawthorne, CDI...what could go wrong?

Author:	W_Z [ Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:08 pm ]
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JORR wrote: It's gonna be interesting to see what happens if Hawthorne doesn't get things straightened out with CDI prior to the Derby and all these once a year bettors show up at the OTBs trying to bet the Derby only to be told, "We aren't carrying the Kentucky Derby but you're more than welcome to bet Mahoning Valley or Delta Downs." Cowboy Dave isn’t going to let that happen.

Author:	ShortTimeLurker [ Tue Feb 11, 2025 12:18 pm ]
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I like DED, it's one of the tracks I look to bet. Racing is very likely toast here. Will Illinois outlast Florida?

Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:45 pm ]
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Saturday 0215 Risen Star G2 (50 pts) Fairgrounds Looking for the 1-American Promise to take them on the lead for as long as he can, but just doesn’t stand up to this group…4-East Avenue seems to have the qualities needed…have to forgive the bobble out of the gate in the Breeders Cup…7- Septarian Chad Brown: Dirt route graded stakes races with Flavien Prat - Past three years: 36 starts, 12 wins (33%), 25 in the money (69%), +22% return on investment ($2.44)…he’s added blinkers and will be gunning for the 4…exacta box 4, 7

Author:	a retard [ Sat Feb 15, 2025 10:32 am ]
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15% profit boost offer on Twin Spires for Fairgrounds today.

Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Sat Feb 15, 2025 11:15 am ]
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Should be a solid undercard, weather is good too. Here's a fun stat The sire Volatile...First time starters on the dirt-55 starts/13 wins/22 in the money... +113% return on investment Two such horses today Race 4 the 5-Bundle 9/2 (Irad Ortiz/Asmussen) Race 6 the 8-Development Fee (Irad/Devaux) Also Regarding Chad Brown and Prat...they also team up in the 12th with the 3-Unit Economics and in the 13th wit the 3-Ballerina d'oro

Author:	ShortTimeLurker [ Sat Feb 15, 2025 11:20 am ]
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I have one Derby future....Built

Author:	JORR [ Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:11 am ]
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I'm completely unimpressed by this generation of three year olds. I'm not buying the fig on Magnitude and he is a bet against for me in the Lousiiana Derby. I question his ability to go beyond a buck and an eighth. I think Chunk of Gold was the most impressive horse in the Risen Star. I don't know what to think about the Baffert horses who have pretty much just beaten each other. I suspect that some non-traditional preps might be key races in the run up to the Derby. Like the Leonatus and perhaps other Turfway preps and yesterday's Sunland Derby. Caldera looked as good as anything I've seen and we know Lukas can get one there and win it. A valedictory win for the Coach would be nice.

Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:42 pm ]
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Saturday 0222 Rebel Stakes pushed back to tomorrow...today the lone race for the trail is in Florence KY at Turfway Park (Battaglia Memorial Stakes)....winner gets 20 points...I really like Eoin Harty's First Resort...Luis Saez comes north for the ride and he may be his horse going forward unfortunatley he scratched...Uncle Mo Colt keep an eye on him this Uncle Mo Colt...think the 7-Baby Max offers value here

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Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:27 pm ]
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OscarTangoEcho wrote: Here's a fun stat The sire Volatile...First time starters on the dirt-55 starts/13 wins/22 in the money... +113% return on investment Two such horses today Race 4 the 5-Bundle 9/2 (Irad Ortiz/Asmussen) NOPE, DID NOT RUN Race 6 the 8-Development Fee (Irad/Devaux) SHOULD HAVE BEEN RACE 7, MORON...AND NOPE DID NOT RUN Also Regarding Chad Brown and Prat...they also team up in the 12th with the 3-Unit Economics NOPE, and in the 13th wit the 3-Ballerina d'oro (SCRATCHED) and yet still alive in the Pick 5 to the 3 4 7 9 13

Author:	a retard [ Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:35 pm ]
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OscarTangoEcho wrote: OscarTangoEcho wrote: OscarTangoEcho wrote: Here's a fun stat The sire Volatile...First time starters on the dirt-55 starts/13 wins/22 in the money... +113% return on investment Two such horses today Race 4 the 5-Bundle 9/2 (Irad Ortiz/Asmussen) NOPE, DID NOT RUN Race 6 the 8-Development Fee (Irad/Devaux) SHOULD HAVE BEEN RACE 7, MORON...AND NOPE DID NOT RUN Also Regarding Chad Brown and Prat...they also team up in the 12th with the 3-Unit Economics NOPE, and in the 13th wit the 3-Ballerina d'oro (SCRATCHED) and yet still alive in the Pick 5 to the 3 4 7 9 13 43-1? Nice

Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Sun Feb 23, 2025 1:56 pm ]
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Nice card at Oaklawn today Rebel stakes I've got Madaket Road to take a big step on the trail...50 points awarded...I am concerned about him and the Derby distance but today should suit him fine Race 10 the razorback the 2 banishing gets Prat aboard but will be chalky hoping to get a price on the 1Crupi or the 3 first mission

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:45 pm ]
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OscarTangoEcho wrote: Nice card at Oaklawn today Rebel stakes I've got Madaket Road to take a big step on the trail...50 points awarded...I am concerned about him and the Derby distance but today should suit him fine Race 10 the razorback the 2 banishing gets Prat aboard but will be chalky hoping to get a price on the 1Crupi or the 3 first mission I am your jockey today OTE, give er hell.

Author:	Phil Leotardo [ Sun Feb 23, 2025 7:21 pm ]
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What did you guys think? Seen some people online thinking Irad botched the rebel. I was glad cause Coal Battle saved me from getting slaughtered today.

Author:	JORR [ Mon Feb 24, 2025 6:55 am ]
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Phil Leotardo wrote: What did you guys think? Seen some people online thinking Irad botched the rebel. I was glad cause Coal Battle saved me from getting slaughtered today. I think he rode perfectly. What else could he do? Up close was the place to be at a route. He had to send. A typical Baffert horse just keeps finding in that situation. I got killed yesterday, but I never feel too bad when a square guy like Lonnie Briley wins a big race. I think that horse that broke his maiden yesterday is the best Baffert three year old I've seen. Cornucopian. He'll probably win the Ark Derby. If I had to make a favorite for the Kentucky Derby right now, I'm going with McCarthy's horse, Journalism. He's the best I've seen from this generation.

Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:45 pm ]
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Big day of racing on tap… San Felipe Stakes-Santa Anita 50 pts for the winner/25/15/10/5 Placed only hallway on the trail, this race has boasted 13 Derby Winners…Authentic won in 2020… This is a chance to see JORR’s horse 2-Journalism who has had a nice start, but be facing stiff competition from the likes of 3-Barnes (Trained by Baffert, who has 3 of the 6 runners)…should be a really good finish between the two Fountain of Youth Stakes-Gulfstream Park (50 pts winner/25/15/10/5) This race has produced 7 winners, but only two since 1995 Not sure if the 6-River Thames is up to the distance, but a quality horse none the less…the 1-Gate To Wire won the Swale convincingly but now adds a furlong and a half…3-Burnham Square (Ian Wilkes) might be my favorite early on in this Derby run…love how this guy finishes…Ive got him getting his picture taken Gotham Stakes-Aqueduct (50/25/20/15/10/5) This race is 0-49 since 1980…kinda don’t care…No Lasix which will make for an interesting race...Mike Maker’s Calling Card ran well against another quality horse on the trail (Sandman) and has a win here locally

Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Sat Mar 01, 2025 6:56 pm ]
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OscarTangoEcho wrote: Big day of racing on tap… San Felipe Stakes-Santa Anita 50 pts for the winner/25/15/10/5 Placed only hallway on the trail, this race has boasted 13 Derby Winners…Authentic won in 2020… This is a chance to see JORR’s horse 2-Journalism who has had a nice start, but be facing stiff competition from the likes of 3-Barnes (Trained by Baffert, who has 3 of the 6 runners)…should be a really good finish between the two EDIT: Journalism is for real Fountain of Youth Stakes-Gulfstream Park (50 pts winner/25/15/10/5) This race has produced 7 winners, but only two since 1995 Not sure if the 6-River Thames is up to the distance, but a quality horse none the less…the 1-Gate To Wire won the Swale convincingly but now adds a furlong and a half…3-Burnham Square (Ian Wilkes) might be my favorite early on in this Derby run…love how this guy finishes…Ive got him getting his picture taken Burnham Square was a disappointment/River Thames got caught Gotham Stakes-Aqueduct (50/25/20/15/10/5) This race is 0-49 since 1980…kinda don’t care…No Lasix which will make for an interesting race...Mike Maker’s Calling Card ran well against another quality horse on the trail (Sandman) and has a win here locally 17-1 upset winner

Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Sat Mar 01, 2025 7:33 pm ]
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and alive in the SA P5 to 3,7 1,6,8,12 cause I know you were wondering

Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Sat Mar 01, 2025 10:20 pm ]
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OscarTangoEcho wrote: and alive in the SA P5 to 3,7 1,6,8,12 cause I know you were wondering

Author:	JORR [ Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:47 am ]
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OscarTangoEcho wrote: OscarTangoEcho wrote: and alive in the SA P5 to 3,7 1,6,8,12 cause I know you were wondering Nice! That paid a lot and wasn't that diffiuclt to have. I singled the 1 in the last race.

Author:	Dignified Rube [ Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:22 am ]
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Journalism's performance yesterday very impressive in the San Felipe, beating the heavy favorite, Barnes at 2-5. He put up a fast time as well for 1 1/16 at 1:42:20. I'll take him in the Kentucky Derby. I had Journalism with heavy win stats in his favor.

Author:	OscarTangoEcho [ Sat Mar 22, 2025 9:45 am ]
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The trail continues today with2 races…Louisiana Derby (100 Points) at Fairgrounds and the Jeff Ruby (100 points) at Turfway. In New Orleans, I really like John Hancock and his battle in the Sam Davis against Owen Almighty was just tremendous. I’ve liked him (particularly his early speed which keeps him out of trouble) on this trail from the beginning and believe he will show up the 1st Saturday in May…Hypnus will be running hard late…Cold exacta JH/Hypnus. At Turfway I think Poster who also was an impressive 3rd in the aforementioned Sam Davis…he trained here all winter and should a nice pace to close into…Flying Gambit will also benefit from the pace.