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Great start.

Thanks, Q.

Agreed. Very happy with it as well


Good for you. We know you can't be happy with anything else that's going on in the MLB.

Not true. I picked up Aaron Judge in the 25th round of my fantasy draft.

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Great start.

Thanks, Q.

Agreed. Very happy with it as well


Good for you. We know you can't be happy with anything else that's going on in the MLB.

Not true. I picked up Aaron Judge in the 25th round of my fantasy draft.


I don't think he plays football.

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Embarassing moment for Joe. It's not even sarcasm just his bad baseball thoughts on display. #Sad.


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leashyourkids wrote:
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Great start.

Thanks, Q.

Agreed. Very happy with it as well


Good for you. We know you can't be happy with anything else that's going on in the MLB.

Not true. I picked up Aaron Judge in the 25th round of my fantasy draft.


I don't think he plays football.


He needs a new tooth.

You can at least do that for him.

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Embarassing moment for Joe. It's not even sarcasm just his bad baseball thoughts on display. #Sad.


Joe is not a great baseball mind. I do think he's a good leader.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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Great start.

Thanks, Q.

Agreed. Very happy with it as well


Good for you. We know you can't be happy with anything else that's going on in the MLB.

Not true. I picked up Aaron Judge in the 25th round of my fantasy draft.


I don't think he plays football.


He needs a new tooth.

You can at least do that for him.


FF's teeth look fine to me.

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The Sox fans are comical tonight.

WHY DID YOU GIVE UP 2 RUNS !!!!

If only Quintana could have hit a 3 run homer.


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The Sox fans are comical tonight.

WHY DID YOU GIVE UP 2 RUNS !!!!

If only Quintana could have hit a 3 run homer.

It's good you're handling the Quintana loss so well. That'll come in handy in 50% of his future starts

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Embarassing moment for Joe. It's not even sarcasm just his bad baseball thoughts on display. #Sad.


Joe is not a great baseball mind. I do think he's a good leader.

Glad to see you finally came around on Maddon.

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His first two games where he went 2-0 don't count. Instead, we will cherry pick the first game that he got "outpitched."


:lol: Or we can look at 175 starts.


I prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt when he was pitching on a Frankenstein team who has the worst record in baseball.



Well, apparently his "bad luck" is portable as is his "run support" which seems to be consistent regardless of whether he is pitching for the Frankenstein team with the worst record in baseball or the Mighty Cub Juggernaut. Congratulations on your acquisition.

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Such a strange and desperate troll effort.

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Such a strange and desperate troll effort.


:lol: You don't get it. I'm glad the Cubs have Quintana and you'll be motherfucking him soon enough. If you think it's "luck", that's fine. I like my starters to be lucky or at least have average luck.

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There's only one pitcher on the Cubs who gets motherfucked and it's Lackey. If a Cubs starter gives up 2 runs and loses, that's on the offense. It's idiotic to expect your starters to have go out every start and give up zero or one run and if he doesn't "why didn't you pitch better".


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There's only one pitcher on the Cubs who gets motherfucked and it's Lackey. If a Cubs starter gives up 2 runs and loses, that's on the offense. It's idiotic to expect your starters to have go out every start and give up zero or one run and if he doesn't "why didn't you pitch better".



If the opposing pitcher can do it vs. the POWERHOUSE Cubs, why can't Quintana do it against a lesser team? And I don't expect anyone to give up zero or one run every game. What I do expect is that a guy you call a good pitcher should give up less than the guys he is facing- the majority of whom you would consider less than good- most of the time.

Here are the facts of last night's game:

2 starting pitchers: one THE GREAT Quintana, one a guy making his eighth career start

Quintana "supported" by the CUB JUGGERNAUT, the eight start guy "supported" by the mediocre Brewers (Though the Brewers have outscored the Cubs to this point, I'm gonna take a wild guess that no Cub fan is going to admit that Milwaukee has a better lineup.)

The eight start guy pitched better than Quintana

HINT for Cub fans: Get used to it.

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I was more disappointed with the cubs squandering opportunities at the plate than i was with quintana's pitching. JORR and i talked about this over beers last night and i get what he's saying.

i think the cubs just had a drought at the plate last night. it happens. don't let it happen today too.


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Quintana didn't pitch well last night either . He was in trouble most of the night.

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There's only one pitcher on the Cubs who gets motherfucked and it's Lackey. If a Cubs starter gives up 2 runs and loses, that's on the offense. It's idiotic to expect your starters to have go out every start and give up zero or one run and if he doesn't "why didn't you pitch better".



If the opposing pitcher can do it vs. the POWERHOUSE Cubs, why can't Quintana do it against a lesser team? And I don't expect anyone to give up zero or one run every game. What I do expect is that a guy you call a good pitcher should give up less than the guys he is facing- the majority of whom you would consider less than good- most of the time.

Here are the facts of last night's game:

2 starting pitchers: one THE GREAT Quintana, one a guy making his eighth career start

Quintana "supported" by the CUB JUGGERNAUT, the eight start guy "supported" by the mediocre Brewers (Though the Brewers have outscored the Cubs to this point, I'm gonna take a wild guess that no Cub fan is going to admit that Milwaukee has a better lineup.)

The eight start guy pitched better than Quintana

HINT for Cub fans: Get used to it.




If Quintana goes out, gives up 5 and Cubs lose 6-5...that's a bad start.

If he goes out, gives up 2 and loses 2-1 that's a good start.

And if he was in trouble all night and only gave up 2? Even better start.

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And if the Cubs have the "better lineup" than Milwaukee, they should put up more than 1 run.


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Hard luck Jose Quintana.

Last night was an example of what Sox fans have seen for years.

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Yup. Just good enough to not win.

#ThatsCub

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His first two games where he went 2-0 don't count. Instead, we will cherry pick the first game that he got "outpitched."


:lol: Or we can look at 175 starts.


I prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt when he was pitching on a Frankenstein team who has the worst record in baseball.



Well, apparently his "bad luck" is portable as is his "run support" which seems to be consistent regardless of whether he is pitching for the Frankenstein team with the worst record in baseball or the Mighty Cub Juggernaut. Congratulations on your acquisition.


:lol: Again, you're basing this on one game. The first game, he got 8 runs, and I didn't hear you breaking out the troll jobs then. It's obvious that you were sitting around just waiting for the one time that he loses a close game to say "SEE! SEE! HE'S SHITTY!"

And, as usual, your passive-aggressive use of "Mighty Cub Juggernaut" and whatever you called them in your other post are just made up. No one here said the Cubs were an offensive juggernaut. In fact, IMU specifically showed you that Milwaukee has been better offensively than the Cubs this year.

But if it trips your trigger to avoid responding to those posts and just making things up that Cub fans said, have at it.

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Yup. Just good enough to not win.

#ThatsCub


Frank, your team has the worst fucking record in Major League Baseball. How in the flying fuck are you ending posts with that tagline when your team is a complete embarrassment?

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Hard luck Jose Quintana.

Last night was an example of what Sox fans have seen for years.


It's pretty easy to compartmentalize a pitchers performance from the offensive performance of his team vs the opposing pitcher. Cub fans are smart enough to do that. Sux fans were not.

Jose will be great here.


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Here is my problem debating Quintana. I think everyone agrees he is one the better pitchers in baseball at preventing your team from scoring runs. His problems, if there is one is converting them to wins.

So what happens when he does give up a run or two (at a lower than league average rate) is this....

Run given up 0-0 - he prevents runs but he always gives up the lead.
Run while trailing 1-0 he just can't keep you in the. Me.
Run while winning 1-0 he can't hold a lead.

The common bond is he gave up a run at lower than league average rate.... I'm confident in his pitching going forward with a team that should get him 4 runs a game. I'll take the occasional out dueled and I'm co Disney it will happen less than 50% of the time going forward.


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Yup. Just good enough to not win.

#ThatsCub


Frank, your team has the worst fucking record in Major League Baseball. How in the flying fuck are you ending posts with that tagline when your team is a complete embarrassment?
Praising the losing pitcher is so Cub.

It also seems to annoy you which is a sweet bonus.

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If you score the first run you win like 2/3 of the time. Maybe don't give up the first run and it won't matter if you give up 1 or 5.


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I'm not sure what Quintana can do to help the Cubs hitters figure out Suter? The point that you're trying to make is a real mindfuck.


Could he pitch at least as well as Suter while facing an inferior offense?


As IMU pointed out (a point you didn't respond to, curiously), the Brewers are ahead of the Cubs in nearly every offensive statistical category, save for OBP. So how exactly are they "an inferior offense"?


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I'm not sure what Quintana can do to help the Cubs hitters figure out Suter? The point that you're trying to make is a real mindfuck.


Could he pitch at least as well as Suter while facing an inferior offense?


As IMU pointed out (a point you didn't respond to, curiously), the Brewers are ahead of the Cubs in nearly every offensive statistical category, save for OBP. So how exactly are they "an inferior offense"?



So the Brewers are a better team than the Cubs, right? They have a better offense plus Suter is better than Quintana. #That'sCub

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leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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His first two games where he went 2-0 don't count. Instead, we will cherry pick the first game that he got "outpitched."


:lol: Or we can look at 175 starts.


I prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt when he was pitching on a Frankenstein team who has the worst record in baseball.



Well, apparently his "bad luck" is portable as is his "run support" which seems to be consistent regardless of whether he is pitching for the Frankenstein team with the worst record in baseball or the Mighty Cub Juggernaut. Congratulations on your acquisition.


:lol: Again, you're basing this on one game. The first game, he got 8 runs, and I didn't hear you breaking out the troll jobs then. It's obvious that you were sitting around just waiting for the one time that he loses a close game to say "SEE! SEE! HE'S SHITTY!"

And, as usual, your passive-aggressive use of "Mighty Cub Juggernaut" and whatever you called them in your other post are just made up. No one here said the Cubs were an offensive juggernaut. In fact, IMU specifically showed you that Milwaukee has been better offensively than the Cubs this year.

But if it trips your trigger to avoid responding to those posts and just making things up that Cub fans said, have at it.



I'm absolutely not basing it on one game as much as you might like that to be the case. The man has 175 big league starts. And this isn't a Cubs-Sox thing either. My feelings about him were no different when he was plying his trade eight miles south. I'm pretty sure there's a clear record of that so there's no need to try to turn it into some "JORR is anti-Cub" nonsense.

Finally, just for the record, are you acknowledging that the Brewer offense is superior to the Cub offense?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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I'm not sure what Quintana can do to help the Cubs hitters figure out Suter? The point that you're trying to make is a real mindfuck.


Could he pitch at least as well as Suter while facing an inferior offense?


As IMU pointed out (a point you didn't respond to, curiously), the Brewers are ahead of the Cubs in nearly every offensive statistical category, save for OBP. So how exactly are they "an inferior offense"?



So the Brewers are a better team than the Cubs, right?


Up until very recently they were unequivocally better, yes.


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