Rounding into TRADE FORM! Last 3 Starts, very tradebale numbers! With all the TJ surgeries in baseball, someone has to want this guy.

I know the contrat is there, but he never has had an injury, seems to be a 200 inning guy, which is why I assumed Theo wanted the guy, he is $11 mill a season for 15 and 16, he will be 31 and 32.

for a solid 3 or 4, $11 mill seems to be market price on a contender. I just wonder how many welcome mats the guy has worn out.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

I don't think any. He's always been considered a good teammate. He's an army brat so moving around has never bothered him. It's just a matter of if his results will ever match his arm. He works long in almost every count. That doesn't matter so much if all we expect from him is six innings. A guy like him is capable. He looks like he should be better than he is. That's why teams will take a risk.

That's the thing with Samardzija. Every time I hear Kasper he's pounding the drum about how W/L record is meaningless. And maybe Samardzija will go somewhere where he gets more "run support" and put up a good record. Or maybe he'll just allow more runs. I bet the Rangers and Brewers wish they had judged Garza by his W/L record rather than by other things.

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General Jim wears Fort Bragg down to get it!

When they traded Garza he was 6-1

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

He was 63-62.

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General Jim wears Fort Bragg down to get it!

That's a durable season!

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

i could see barbera walters finally getting her exclusive sitdown interview with god, and in the middle of answering a question god has to stop and point down in order to not leave edwin jackson hanging on a skypoint as he exits his latest great start.

i'm pretty sure insurance companies would file "edwin jackson hot streaks" under the "act of god" category

anyways excuse me while i go back to my shrine to max scherzer and give my daily offerings to the greatest winner in MLB.

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Who deserved to win?
2009
"(AP) NEW YORK -- Zack Greinke won the American League Cy Young Award on Tuesday, beating out Felix Hernandez after a spectacular season short on wins but long on domination.

Greinke went 16-8 with a 2.16 ERA for the Kansas City Royals. Hernandez went 19-5 with a 2.49 ERA for the Seattle Mariners.

Greinke received 25 first-place votes and three seconds for 134 points in balloting by the Baseball Writers' Association of America. Hernandez drew two firsts, 23 seconds and one third for 80 points.

Greinke's ERA was the lowest in the AL since Pedro Martinez's 1.74 ERA in 2000 and his 242 strikeouts were second in the league behind Verlander.

It was quite a turnaround for the 26-year-old right-hander, who was the sixth overall pick in the 2002 amateur draft but led the AL in losses in 2005 when he went 5-17.

His victory total matched that of Arizona's Brandon Webb three years ago for the fewest by a starting pitcher to win a Cy Young Award in a non-shortened season and was the fewest by an AL starter to win in a full-length season.

Kansas City, which tied for last place in the AL Central at 65-97, scored just 13 runs in his eight losses and 21 runs in his nine no-decisions. He failed to get a victory in six starts in which he allowed one run or none.

He was particularly sharp at the start and finish, going 5-0 with a 0.50 ERA in April and 5-0 with a 1.29 ERA in his last eight starts. He didn't allow any runs in his first three starts and any earned runs in his first four, and his 0.84 ERA through 10 starts was the first below 1.00 in the major leagues since Juan Marichal's 0.55 in 1966."

WHIP, ERA is more important then W/L record. Just admit it already and move on.

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Why would anyone admit something so patently stupid? Because it's a popular thought?

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General Jim wears Fort Bragg down to get it!

Should have moved him then!!!!!!



The Cubs are trying to trade struggling starter Edwin Jackson, who's slipped badly this year and needs a change of scenery, at least.

Even the Yankees, an occasional pursuer of Jackson in the past, don't seem interested. So this might be a tough task.

Jackson, who is 5-10 with an unsightly 5.61 ERA, is due about $26 million through 2016 thanks to an $11 million salary this year and the next two years, as well.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Untradeable now. Never understood the signing then or now. Bad.

Agree

here you are, laid out this plan and E jax might have been the Anti Plan Poster Child!

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Made no sense then or now. Why give a bad fourth or fifth journeyman starter big money? Do not get it now they r stuck unless junk for junk trade bad contract trade. Theo fucked up that one.

Two more years!

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

that 52 mil could have bought 2 or 3 decent hitters for a few years.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Skills demand compensation. tanking was Theo's plan and can't think of better piece than Edwin to get 'r done.

I think it was earmarked for Anibel Sanchez and then they got a consolation prize

Which makes it worse

Why in the hell did they feel the need to spend the money anyway?

Losing out on Sanchez and Tanaka in consecutive years should be even more sobering than signing Jackson.

Good luck winning a spending war against Detroit and Boston this winter.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

And here is the crux of the matter. If they arent willing to spend after all this tanking and minor league talent build up then this is all a big circle jerk. I dont think Ricketts is ever going to spend and Theo will resign.

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Sanchez? Yea, maybe.

Tanaka? No. No one will outbid the Yankees if they want a guy.

I don't want any giant pitching contracts given out. Quickest way to screw up your team.

Yeah, position players never have bad contracts. Just ask Anaheim...

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If you don't want to give out a giant pitching contract then you don't want to win. Middle of the road pitchers now get giant pitching contracts despite The(o) Plan's belief that good pitching is plentiful and cheap.

I believe next year is Arrieta's last arbitration year so you are basically looking at the same scenario as Samardzija yet again.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Nope. He's a FA in 2017 dovetailing nicely with his WS MVP.

So he must be signed to a long term this off season, because he will not sign away on free agency once it is less than a year away.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Really?

No way Arietta is going to command that type of money. I'll take 2 or 3 Arietta's or the likes of and roll the dice.

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/mlb/starting-pitcher/

Take a look at that list. Lots of bad money.

They'll have to go the Royals route and trade for quasi Ace like Shields.

I will take 6 or 7 of them! The need to have 6 or 7 pitchers, stashed in AAA or mid relief, is about to become the 2 RB scenario.

However, the true ACE, is special. The guy that can throw 2 games in a 7 game series and dominate, thats the guy who can command what he wants.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”