You are hoping it's 100%. It's not fact. If there is no one pushing them AGAIN next year, they are just Gonzaga and hoping to get hot in October.

Of course it’s been determined. TA, Moncada, Robert, Grandal, Abreau, Jimenez and 7 or 8 pitchers have all played enough games to show they’re talented.

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Thibs would be the perfect manager for this team

I’d love to see a baseball Thibs cope with having to rest otherwise healthy players.

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That's a fair point, but I can counter with half of the Sox lineup's were being filled with Jay Clam, Brian Goodwin, Billy Hamilton, Zavala/Collins, etc.

There is a lot that remains to be seen about this team. Which is why next year, #It'sTime. Win the Pennant/World Series, or fail. There is not a third outcome.

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Paradoxically, the team was better when it was worse.

I think a lot of that has to do with the pitching peaking and then fatiguing.

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If they werent in the division they were in , they dont sniff the playoffs.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Has to do with the pitching being bumslayers.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

They miss the playoffs if they are in the East. Last year they got in by the skin of their teeth by finishing 2nd to a team that hasn't won a playoff game since Torii Hunter.

They had a better record than Boston, New York, Toronto, Seattle, Braves, and Cardinals. They were two games worse than the Brewers and Astros. The Sox were not one of MLB's top teams, but they weren't the 2006 Cardinals either.

Its amazing the Sox won a division given the injuries they had. A nice accomplishment, but they fell woefully short of their goals.

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The 2021 White Sox were the only team in baseball that dealt with injury issues.

do you want me to make you look stupid and post your beloved WAR that team's lost to injuries this year

I'll give you a hint, you are going to look stupid

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I agree. It's in the stats.

And furthermore, Correa rips a shoulder high 97mph 0-2 heater down the line RISP to get the lead off Rodon. That's talent.

The Sox pitching allowed 31 runs in 4 games, and didn't do a lot better against the Astros in many of the regular season matchups (had games where they gave up 10, 8, 7, 7). Starters went 12 1/3 innings total in 4 games. Until that is figured out, doesn't matter what the lineup does, unless the plan is to win the world series by winning 10-7 every night. Relievers are weird, and can be up and down year-to-year. The starting pitching worries me though.


FYI, The Braves are in the NLCS and second place in their division was a robust 82-80.

It's a good righthanded batter doing what he should do vs. an injured lefty who is taking over a minute between each pitch because he's so damn sore.

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pfft. National League arguments are moot.

Sox also dont have anyone as good as Morton or Fried starting for them.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Interleague and all star games show NL to be AAAA level. It's been this way for decades. Now go give the bunt sign to your pitcher.

This is the reason the Sox lost the series, has nothing to do with the lineup. The Sox scored 18 runs in the four games, for comparison the Giants have scored 9 in their four games. Signing Nick Castellanos to play RF isn't going to solve the problem of coughing up 31 runs in 4 games.

The pitching wasn't healthy on October 12th, that's a fact. Lynn, Giolito, and Rodon were not the same pitchers the last week that they were in June. You've got to make a call on if Rodon can stay healthy for an entire year. Aside from that, sign Verlander to be your premier starting pitcher and the whole rotation looks better.

The Sox are going to have homefield advantage next year in the DS at a minimum. This team looks an awful lot like a 100 win team next year. Verlander and Giolito start games 1 and 2, and then Lynn is the best #3 starter in the playoffs at that point.

Verlander or Scherzer at the top of that rotation makes a huge difference.

3B Moncada vs. Bregman, Bregman by a country mile
SS Correa vs. Timmay - Correa by not as much
2B Altuve vs. Hernandez - Altuve by two country miles
1B Gurriel vs. Abreu - Abreu by a hair
LF Brantley vs. Jimenez - Brantley
CF Meyers/McCormick vs. Robert - Robert by a country mile
RF Tucker vs. Garcia - Tucker
DH Alvarez vs. Sheets - Alvarez by a country mile
C Maldonado vs. Grandal - Grandal (see Antioch )

The key to solving the issue of a starting rotation with health issues is to sign a soon to be 39 year old coming off TJS. Brilliant analysis.

Three days ago, you said Houston "in theory" could start that 39 year old coming off of TJS in Game 5....you fucking imbecile

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There's a lot wrong here. I'd start with Moncada doubling Bregman's WAR.

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Recency bias. Bregman and Tucker killed the Sox all series.


For comparison, the Sox scored 12 runs in one game, and then 6 runs across the other three games combined.

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Yep and it doesn't include the pitching staff.

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The Sox suck and were lucky to make the playoffs and the Astros were far better.
HAHA White Sox lost to the Astros in the playoffs!

Cubbie Nation, please pick which of the above you are actually going with.

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Sox slash line in the series: .291/.361/.372
Astros slash line in the series: .288/.372/.432

These are not the drones you are looking for.

Right. The Sox hit a ton of singles. I already said that production wasn't good enough.

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Not for nothing Tucker had a .917 OPS during the regular season which was good for 3rd in the American League. Kid is a legitimate superstar at this point and nobody really knows about him.

He batted no higher than 6th in the series. The Astros lineup is a meat grinder. It's a tough lineup for anyone to get through much less if you have a beat up pitching staff.