Nicely done.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

What is your point?

Many laws are tough to enforce. I'm not arguing otherwise.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Your argument is that a use tax could stop people from dodging the soda tax by purchasing out of county. My counterpoint (backed by the fact no one actually pays use tax) is that use taxes are not enforced nor can they ever be effectively enforced so people will without issue get around this foolish Cook County tax and in the process Cook County will lose out on sales tax revenue from other items bought alongside the soda.

That's pretty simple.

Are we done here?

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

For retyping "Let's assume they did"? Not likely.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I expected as much.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The use tax only applies to state sales tax, not the village/county ones. As long as you paid the state portion 6.25%, which you would in any Illinois County, then you are fine. Buy in Lake. Buy in McHenry. Buy in Kane.

http://tax.illinois.gov/Individuals/Ill ... se-Tax.htm

"Illinois Use Tax

Many Illinois taxpayers are unaware that a Use Tax exists in Illinois. Do you know about Use Tax?

In 1955, the General Assembly passed the Use Tax Act. Use Tax is a sales tax that you, as the purchaser, owe on items that you buy for use in Illinois. If the seller does not collect at least 6.25 percent sales tax, you must pay the difference to the Illinois Department of Revenue. The most common purchases on which the seller does not collect Illinois Use Tax are those made via the internet, from a mail order catalog, or made when traveling outside Illinois. You must keep your receipts when you make these types of purchases."

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Hawaii (fuck) You

You are correct but let me point out the discussion was that use taxes aren't allowed by the courts for in person purchases(which then quickly shifted to that it's hard to enforce).

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

My guess is that it's difficult or impossible for most current registers to handle a new tax that is based on the number of ounces in the product, so the store probably created a separate SKU for each of the various soda container sizes and ring that up as a separate item.

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Anyways, as I said before, if you are driving farther away than you otherwise would to buy sugar water because of a tax on it then you need to reevaluate how important sugar water is to you. I used to enjoy a lot of sugar water too but I'm not going way out of my way to get it.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Given that you have likely bought things online and paid no tax, did you pay your use tax? I'm guessing no and I doubt anyone on this board will say they have filed to pay it.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

People already do it for gas so why would this be different? It's the concept of not rewarding local government for raising taxes to cover up their own incompetence. Cook County deserves the economic ramifications of lost tax revenue for trying to play the role of nanny state rather than trying to reign in their out of control spending.

Also, it isn't just sugar water as this applies to items without sugar as well. I'm not talking aspartame items either. Splenda has been proven to be a safe sugar substitute and items containing it are taxed as if they have sugar.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I'm not driving to Deerfield from Rogers Park to specifically buy pop, but you can bet I'll grab it when I'm up there, which I am every week.

Also, I buy all the supplies for my club at the Russians on Dundee and Milwaukee, but it's no big deal to roll north of Lake-Cook to avoid paying an extra $20 in pop tax. And when I'm there, I'm gonna buy all my booze and groceries too.

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Communists are just people who are terrible at capitalism.

So by passing this soda tax, Cook County is losing out on what could be thousands of dollars into their retail economy and hundreds in collected sales tax from you alone. Would I be misreading that?

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I've been paying my use tax for online purchases for several years now. In the last few, a lot easier since most major online retailers now charge sales tax.

I'm supporting your beta male ass by paying for the infrastructure and services you use daily. You're welcome.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

People on the border of Cook County may do it for gas.

I'm not so sure that Splenda has been "proven to be safe".

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It was already cheaper there though given the sales tax difference.

Score another one for the suburbs I guess!

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Splenda has been proven time and time again to be safe. About the only detractors you will find are the Mercola types and I'd say he has no credibility when he is an anti-vaxer.

Aspartame is another story though, which is why many people seek out Splenda.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I'm going to avoid Splenda, but I've been cutting back on sugar in my diet heavily for the last month and a half anyway.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/262475.php

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Most studies will say that Splenda is safe and it has not been linked to cancer as Aspartame has http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2017/05/ ... 494340228/

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

One would presume this will be good for the Local Milk People

Snopes also debunked the "splenda is unsafe" myth.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/splenda.asp

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

You said "proven to be safe". There is a lot of information starting to come out that ALL artificial sweeteners meant to mimic sugar are bad for you. It doesn't mean you are going to raise your cancer risk or that you are going to have your stomach explode but it would be hard to call it "safe" if we don't consider sugar "safe".

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The snopes article was last updated a year before the article I posted, but the European study was posted a year after.

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as with most food products, sugar itself is safe. It comes down to being responsible and having reasonable amounts/portions of it.

Fat, cholesterol, sugar, etc. are all necessary components in your food. You cannot eliminate them entirely, but simply must be an adult and be responsible for what you intake.

We are adults and we alone should be responsible for what we eat. it is not up to the state to dictate what we can and can't do with our own bodies. Does the phrase "my body my choice" mean anything to you?

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

and my article referencing the new European study on Splenda was from 2-3 months ago.

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That's what I said Ogie!!!

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Didn't they ban any food deemed to be unsafe in Demolition Man?

Is that what you want, Rick?

Assholes walking around in mu mus all the time telling you to fucking Be Well?

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I think we are referring to 2 separate studies, this is the one I was referring to:

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2017/05/ ... 494340228/

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

we are all going to die anyways, fyi.

I think everyone agrees with you in principle Ogie.

If the tax leads to less people drinking diabetes fuel then that's not a bad thing either tho.

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