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His bigotry during this campaign is reminiscent of what occurred during the George Wallace and Bull Connor era.


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Is Trump a racist? Is Trump an advocate of the poor?


Hyperbole 101


Is Trump a racist?

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Or that dreaded ideology of hatred, "anti-Hillarism."


Is Trump a racist?

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Or that dreaded ideology of hatred, "anti-Hillarism."


Is Trump a racist?

is trump going to win the election?

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His bigotry during this campaign is reminiscent of what occurred during the George Wallace and Bull Connor era.


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Is Trump a racist? Is Trump an advocate of the poor?


Hyperbole 101


Is Trump a racist?

is trump going to win the election?

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LTG seems to leave out the people that simply enjoy the shit show that this horse race is from the sidelines.


Favre Fan can say that. As maybe the biggest Hillary basher on this site, you cannot.


Sure I can. As much as I have or will bash her I am not voting for or a supporter of Trump.



I don't believe you. You live in a swing state that could push one of the candidates past 270. There is no way that you are not doing what you can to prevent the Hill Dog from getting elected.


I can't help you there. I am not voting.


Fair enough. That is probably what I will do, at least for President. I am definitely not voting for Trump, and I don't want to vote for Hillary either. Not that it matters in IL. I will still vote for state and local contests.

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LTG seems to leave out the people that simply enjoy the shit show that this horse race is from the sidelines.


Favre Fan can say that. As maybe the biggest Hillary basher on this site, you cannot.


Sure I can. As much as I have or will bash her I am not voting for or a supporter of Trump.

uh-oh.

LTG adds pittmike to the list of people who are not voting for Hillary WHO MUST THEREFORE BE VOTING FOR TRUMP! That makes 7!


For a lot of guys that are not voting for Trump they sure go out of their way to defend him or completely ignore his actions. You included. You choose to play the he isn't going to win thus why are we even talking about him game but I'm not fooled one bit. You have a hard time with someone mentioning his name. This is the case even in a thread where people are supposed to mention his name.

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City of Fools wrote:
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His bigotry during this campaign is reminiscent of what occurred during the George Wallace and Bull Connor era.


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Is Trump a racist? Is Trump an advocate of the poor?


Hyperbole 101


Is Trump a racist?

is trump going to win the election?

I didn't ask you I asked Seacrest.

Since you want in on the action is he a racist?

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If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.

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COF looking bad right about now with all the "trump has no chance" stuff

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If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Do you really think he is? Or do you think he uses the system and underbelly of society to his advantage? I know what I think but the way I read some others they feel he is at the dinner table in a hood telling Ivanka if she comes home with a black grand baby she is disowned.

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If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Do you really think he is? Or do you think he uses the system and underbelly of society to his advantage? I know what I think but the way I read some others they feel he is at the dinner table in a hood telling Ivanka if she comes home with a black grand baby she is disowned.
I think he is a racist.

If he wasn't, he wouldn't say some of the things he says.

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If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Notice how everyone is ducking the question. Cuts right to the heart of the issue.

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COF looking bad right about now with all the "trump has no chance" stuff


Of course it is a long way off and it seems every week brings a new drama that can change it but this is interesting to me. Probably the most interesting race of my life due to the two candidates with such high negatives. One thing I defintely have noticed is the closer Trump gets in the polls the louder guys like LTG or Bernsie (shouting about neo nazis on the air) get.

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Or that dreaded ideology of hatred, "anti-Hillarism."


Is Trump a racist?


It's a matter of opinion. And the reality is, your opinion, as well as mine, is irrelevant.

We are both "deplorables." I'm not interested in challenging your fantasy world. I'm here to highlight the fallacious and insincere nature of your talking points.

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If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Notice how everyone is ducking the question.

That's not true. MANY of us who despise Hillary have no problem admitting Trump is a worse candidate and a racist.

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pittmike wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Do you really think he is? Or do you think he uses the system and underbelly of society to his advantage? I know what I think but the way I read some others they feel he is at the dinner table in a hood telling Ivanka if she comes home with a black grand baby she is disowned.


I think you're describing a racist regardless of how he may feel about select black people.

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If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Notice how everyone is ducking the question.

That's not true. MANY of us who despise Hillary have no problem admitting Trump is a worse candidate and a racist.


Many recent posts are discussing it in fact. :lol:

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long time guy wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Notice how everyone is ducking the question.

That's not true. MANY of us who despise Hillary have no problem admitting Trump is a worse candidate and a racist.

Co-signed!

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If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Notice how everyone is ducking the question.

That's not true. MANY of us who despise Hillary have no problem admitting Trump is a worse candidate and a racist.
Deep down ltg is just mad that people don't like Hillary. It's pretty obvious.

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If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Notice how everyone is ducking the question.

That's not true. MANY of us who despise Hillary have no problem admitting Trump is a worse candidate and a racist.

I'll join that club too. I believe he's racist...but then I think most of us are to a degree. But that aside, yes, I think he's racist. I'm not voting for him, but I'm in the seven man club WHO MUST BE VOTING FOR TRUMP.

I'll wear it if Donald is competitive in the race with Hillary. I didn't expect her handlers to let her do a weekend at Bernie's in real life on camera. Now it may be a bit closer than I thought, but I'll stand by my prediction.

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Trump has never been in a position to help blacks.


This just isn't true. So what if he hasn't held public office? He's had plenty of opportunities through hiring practices, housing projects, charitable work...which he has done zero.


That's a narrative. I don't know if it's true or not. I'm sure he has employed some black people if that's what we define as "helping". Anyway, I'll say again, I don't want to get into defending Trump.


You already have gotten into defending Trump though. Perceived racism and actual racism are two totally separate things. Trump has never promoted an African American to the position of executive in any of his companies. He also broke a racial quota agreement with respect to hiring at his Casino in Indiana. His racism is for real.


I really haven't. You perceive any criticism of Hillary Clinton as a defense of Trump.


MANY believe that you go out of your way to criticize Hillary but don't have much negative to say about Trump.

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If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Do you really think he is? Or do you think he uses the system and underbelly of society to his advantage? I know what I think but the way I read some others they feel he is at the dinner table in a hood telling Ivanka if she comes home with a black grand baby she is disowned.


This guy has systematically sought to deny blacks access to scarce resources. He is quoted as saying that he hates that blacks have to count his money. Listen to the bigotry that he exhibited during the Indian Casino testimony in the Senate. Some of the most bigoted shit you'd ever want to hear. Clinton dislike and hatred should not obscure anyone from knowing exactly who this guy is. He has spent the better part of his life demonstrating it.

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His bigotry during this campaign is reminiscent of what occurred during the George Wallace and Bull Connor era.


If you want to be taken seriously, I wouldn't post stuff like this.


You would be wrong

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If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Do you really think he is? Or do you think he uses the system and underbelly of society to his advantage? I know what I think but the way I read some others they feel he is at the dinner table in a hood telling Ivanka if she comes home with a black grand baby she is disowned.


I think you're describing a racist regardless of how he may feel about select black people.


Probably. I think many more people in our country have prejudices than what I call evil racism. I think people like the former can be ignorant or any other myriad of reasons they are Archie Bunkers but personally wouldn't hate or harm a fly. Of course, I don't experience racism so I do not know. I am not talking about institutional racism in government or the corporate world but strictly about people.

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If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Notice how everyone is ducking the question. Cuts right to the heart of the issue.

you're not reading well. At least 4 people on this page who hate or dislike Hillary agree that they think Trump is racist.

Now that that's out of the way, let's shift the conversation back to the president elect Hillary, and stop talking as much about a candidate that is the equivalent of the "the rent is too damn high" candidate.

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If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Notice how everyone is ducking the question.

That's not true. MANY of us who despise Hillary have no problem admitting Trump is a worse candidate and a racist.

I'll join that club too. I believe he's racist...but then I think most of us are to a degree. But that aside, yes, I think he's racist. I'm not voting for him, but I'm in the seven man club WHO MUST BE VOTING FOR TRUMP.

I'll wear it if Donald is competitive in the race with Hillary. I didn't expect her handlers to let her do a weekend at Bernie's in real life on camera. Now it may be a bit closer than I thought, but I'll stand by my prediction.


Hillary Clinton wins. By Mid October she will begin to stretch him out in the polls. She will win by 5-6% and the electoral college map will be much greater than the final voting numbers indicate.

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His bigotry during this campaign is reminiscent of what occurred during the George Wallace and Bull Connor era.


If you want to be taken seriously, I wouldn't post stuff like this.

Why? Mexico is sending rapists and criminals here, and let's ban all Muslims, is pretty fucking racist. I wasn't alive for George Wallace, but Trump is far and away the most outwardly racist candidate for pretty much any office of my lifetime. Ltg isn't wrong.


Trump never said, "Ban all Muslims". He's talking specifically about refugees. The shit he says is bad enough without spinning it.

I respect LTG's opinions, but come on. George Wallace was running on an actual platform of white supremacy. I have Mexican friends that hate Trump and consider his statements on illegals to be somehow related to them. Trump is clumsy, has stupid "solutions", and the things he said about that Mexican-American judge were shameful. But let's be serious. We have borders. Do we want to eliminate all borders and just be people of the Earth? I'd be in favor of that. But I was ridiculed for suggesting a radical alteration of the way we police, I can just imagine what kind of response there would be to that idea. So at least theoretically, almost everyone here is in favor of borders. But if anyone can just come and go as they please, that really isn't a border, is it?


So you generally agree with Trump so that makes him different than Wallace.

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pittmike wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Do you really think he is? Or do you think he uses the system and underbelly of society to his advantage? I know what I think but the way I read some others they feel he is at the dinner table in a hood telling Ivanka if she comes home with a black grand baby she is disowned.


This guy has systematically sought to deny blacks access to scarce resources. He is quoted as saying that he hates that blacks have to count his money. Listen to the bigotry that he exhibited during the Indian Casino testimony in the Senate. Some of the most bigoted shit you'd ever want to hear. Clinton dislike and hatred should not obscure anyone from knowing exactly who this guy is. He has spent the better part of his life demonstrating it.



I did just read this a half hour ago. He actually said the counters should be short guys with yarmulkes as well.

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If he tries really hard long time guy may be able to do the unthinkable and convince people that Trump is a racist.


Do you really think he is? Or do you think he uses the system and underbelly of society to his advantage? I know what I think but the way I read some others they feel he is at the dinner table in a hood telling Ivanka if she comes home with a black grand baby she is disowned.


This guy has systematically sought to deny blacks access to scarce resources. He is quoted as saying that he hates that blacks have to count his money. Listen to the bigotry that he exhibited during the Indian Casino testimony in the Senate. Some of the most bigoted shit you'd ever want to hear. Clinton dislike and hatred should not obscure anyone from knowing exactly who this guy is. He has spent the better part of his life demonstrating it.



So you believe that Donald Trump hates you?

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His bigotry during this campaign is reminiscent of what occurred during the George Wallace and Bull Connor era.


If you want to be taken seriously, I wouldn't post stuff like this.

Why? Mexico is sending rapists and criminals here, and let's ban all Muslims, is pretty fucking racist. I wasn't alive for George Wallace, but Trump is far and away the most outwardly racist candidate for pretty much any office of my lifetime. Ltg isn't wrong.


Trump never said, "Ban all Muslims". He's talking specifically about refugees. The shit he says is bad enough without spinning it.

I respect LTG's opinions, but come on. George Wallace was running on an actual platform of white supremacy. I have Mexican friends that hate Trump and consider his statements on illegals to be somehow related to them. Trump is clumsy, has stupid "solutions", and the things he said about that Mexican-American judge were shameful. But let's be serious. We have borders. Do we want to eliminate all borders and just be people of the Earth? I'd be in favor of that. But I was ridiculed for suggesting a radical alteration of the way we police, I can just imagine what kind of response there would be to that idea. So at least theoretically, almost everyone here is in favor of borders. But if anyone can just come and go as they please, that really isn't a border, is it?


So you generally agree with Trump so that makes him different than Wallace.


I said, I'm open to a world without borders. How about you? But if we're going to have borders, shouldn't the mean something? If anyone can come from anywhere whenever they please without consequence, why have a border at all?

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