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dark comedy about three different groups of guests at a luxury resort in Hawaii. It had a Fantasy Island vibe. Episode 1 peaked my interest but I do have to warn you that there is a 10 second close up shot of both the frank and the beans. It appears from teasers for the next episode that there will be additional shots of trouser snake. This is a disturbing trend in non network tv shows these days. Luckily it is balanced by Alexandra Daddario's breasts heaving out of a not properly fitted bikini.

Jennifer Coolidge is great as always, playing the straight woman in comedic situations.

I give this show 4 out of 5 gonads through episode 1.

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Very good show so far. Just a bunch of extremely unlikeable people (with a few exceptions) working through some ridiculous moments.

Less dick than the OP suggested though.

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I think you guys are watching it for the dick.


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There was a scene in the most recent episode that was far worse than the dick scene.

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SOLID show. From the same guy that did Enlighted.

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SOLID show. From the same guy that did Enlighted.


Me thinks you like The White Loadtus

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denisdman wrote:
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SOLID show. From the same guy that did Enlighted.


Me thinks you like The White Loadtus


White Load(on a)tush is a bit of a stretch but I think better than what you came up with.

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I've watched 3 episodes and I think I am going to give up on it. Semi curious how it ends but based on the first episode I have a good idea of who is getting shipped home in a box.

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Mike White has a pretty stellar resume as a satirist.


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Episode three has some good scenes in it.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
There was a scene in the most recent episode that was far worse than the dick scene.


Oh now I think I know what you’re referring to. Awesome.

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Prudes. The lot of you.

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I've watched 3 episodes and I think I am going to give up on it. Semi curious how it ends but based on the first episode I have a good idea of who is getting shipped home in a box.


I'm three episodes in and have loved it. It's pretty funny throughout, with typically understated comedic roles from Zahn and Coolidge.

Those two girls playing the teens are playing those roles perfectly. They really deserve some award consideration. The one complaint is that all these "teens" are obviously in their 20s. The young son appears to be written as about 16 and the actor is already prematurely balding.

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I finished it last night. Great character development. There is not a lot of action, so much of the stuff is an understated look at human interaction and insecurities. But the resort manager ends up stealing the show. There are two scenes of his that are among the best in tv movie history.

I caught the 16 year old with male pattern balding. His sister and friend played their unlikable roles well. The dad really came out of his shell, and his baboon scene in bed was a top ten moment.

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Still going through it but Shane is the product of really lazy writing, in my view. He's simply unbelievable as a douchebag, which is the role he's supposed to play through episode 3. There are things his wife is finding out him at the resort that would have been uncovered ages ago in any normal relationship. For that reason I don't find him or that story particularly compelling, though it seems like he's set up that way so his wife can have some sort of self-exploration thing. But, even so, it's shoddy writing and way too obvious.

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You're in for a real treat in episode 4.

Shane is an asshat. And you're spot on in your assessment of his wife.

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Still going through it but Shane is the product of really lazy writing, in my view. He's simply unbelievable as a douchebag, which is the role he's supposed to play through episode 3. There are things his wife is finding out him at the resort that would have been uncovered ages ago in any normal relationship. For that reason I don't find him or that story particularly compelling, though it seems like he's set up that way so his wife can have some sort of self-exploration thing. But, even so, it's shoddy writing and way too obvious.


The relationship is not well written.

He didn't care what she pursued. She could have continued down her path of authoring on line mediocrity. In fact, it would have been a bigger feather in his cap to have a wife who was a writer. It wasn't unreasonable to object to working hard on their honeymoon.

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It was a very good show. I would have considered it great but I don't think the finale lived up to the rest of the show.

It would seem that the author was trying to make a statement about wealthy, white complacency by titling the story The White Lotus. However, he certainly gets more than enough digs in at the slacktivist class as well as the social justice warrior class. My readings of reviews of the show don't seem to understand that the writer undermined all the incoherent but lofty ideals Paula voiced.

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also, it was gnawing at me where I had seen the older guy who falls in love with Beverly...it's Uncle Rico

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also, it was gnawing at me where I had seen the older guy who falls in love with Beverly...it's Uncle Rico


Hah you’re right. It was his head gestures that looked so familiar. The way he cranes his neck when he speaks.

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I thought the upshot of the whole thing is that the rich people always win.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
I thought the upshot of the whole thing is that the rich people always win.


I’ll play the devil’s advocate here since I need to stick with my board role as defender of the wealthy.

Stifler’a mom: She is in perpetual pain. Haunted by her dead mother and traveling without a single friend. Sure she meets an old guy and hooks up, but he is on his death bed. She is desperate and basically alone. No one wants to be around her but for this old guy who just needs to drop his load.


The couple: They got screwed out of their suite. The young marriage nearly died in the first week. He is clearly not happy with her as he is so easily distracted by perceived slights. The hotel staff hates him so much that they shit on his clothes. The wife has the world’s most annoying MIL. Their honeymoon sucked. And the husband killed a man…

The family: Their son runs away at the end. The daughter is full of jealousy. The dad finds out that his father died of AIDS and lived a double life. The mother has an entirely unappreciative family, and her husband cheats on her. When he is not cheating, the father turns into a bedroom baboon. The ocean steals the masturbating son’s electronic devices. The friend despises them so much that she gets her boyfriend to steal from them. The dad gets socked in the face. What a great vacation.


So sure these first world problems pale in comparison to a starving Afghan family. But things did not turn out so well for the rich folk.

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Idk, the runaway kid was an annoying little goof they made sleep in a pantry. Doesn’t seem a huge loss.

And Pete from the Office’s punishment for murdering a guy was having Alexandra Daddario apologize to him for being insufficiently grateful.

In terms of the servant class, one lady was so overworked she gave birth in the lobby, one guy went to jail after being convinced to rob the family (by a rich-adjacent girl who faced no consequences for her role in the robbery) and another guy took a steak knife to the heart.

The masseuse got a few nice meals and a stack of cash. She did pretty well all things considered.

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The Resort Manager and his boy toys were the only ones having any fun. Plus the kid with the bun hairdo has the cleanest ass on property. :lol:

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Just finished Season 1 and was trying to figure out who the dad (Mark) reminded me of. Finally got it…Lou Canellis. :shock:

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On episode four. This show does not disappoint. Great, creepy character build up and instant wtf moments.

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W_Z wrote:
Mike White has a pretty stellar resume as a satirist.


started this over the weekend after some friends kept talking it up after 3 seasons. we're through the first 2 episodes of season 1 and i can see mike white's sharp wit is still there.

it's an odd and unique show, and the location is certainly beautiful.

there's definitely some symbolism going on, but the story unfolds very deliberately. i'm not into binging but i definitely wanted to keep going at the end of the second episode.


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finished the 1st season. i really wanted it to all fit together for me but by the end, i had the same feeling i have for a lot of these high concept shows. it just petered out, never found a central theme that held it together, and 3 major flaws sunk it for me ultimately.

my favorite character was armand, poor guy. the actor playing him was outstanding, and i'm glad that an australian actor got to actually keep his accent. it fit well with the environment.

obviously the aesthetic was gorgeous, and well shot. definitely serves as an advertisement to visit hawaii. the mossbacher family was interesting, steve zahn always being a scene magnet. the son's arc was a nice touch, could serve as a larger lesson in ditching phones for "living".

much of the agenda of the show was very obvious, and extremely on the nose. that was disappointing coming from mike white, who does have a skill for subtlety. however, his sharpness could've been dulled by getting to write basically a 6 1/2 hour long movie. this would've probably been an awesome 110-120 minute long film, condensing some of the bloatedness and shearing off some characters. it started out promising enough, but as it went on like episodes 4-6, it just lost it.

that brings me to the flaws:

1) as previously stated, the shane character and the honeymoon story with his wife, rachel. it doesn't work. shane is all douche and no redeeming qualities. i kept thinking, this kind of crisis from the woman comes from arranged marriages or royal marriages. i think it was a mistake to make her both a naive innocent victim but also coming from a background of clickbait journalism. the latter would've made more sense to be paired with shane. molly shannon chews up a ton of scenery as the controlling, passive aggressive mom. but again, it's like...deleted scene material. it adds nothing to the story except puts way too fine a point that this is a rich momma's boy. the conclusion of the story is also lame because the would-be irony is lost in the fact that rachel's character isn't consistent or believable enough for any of it to make a difference. shane didn't deserve to have a poignancy.

2) the paula character doesn't get a pass. i'm supposed to believe that she suddenly changes from being a drugged up self-indulgent college brat (that must also come from a privileged family to go the same college as the daughter whom she's friends with) to a worldly wannabe activist? i was hoping there would be something more to that, a self-aware ironic twist about her being suddenly so aware of oppression after fucking the staff boy. but no, it's suddenly, oh...weepy time. that fell flat.

3) the staff vs. the guests contrast wasn't nearly dressed up enough. belinda, the massage therapist therapist who befriends coolidge's character, is set up (again, painfully obviously) to be let down that in fact...she's not going to help her get her business off the ground, no, she just leaves her...what, was that, like $5k? uh, plenty of cash to start your own business or get something going. in fact, there is a pretty touching true story of that very thing happening about 30-40 years ago of a restaurant chain called "cest la vie" and it all started from a mexican taco stand. instead, we're supposed to feel bad for her as being "paid off" or something. that missed the mark. there's absolutely no reason belinda is in the last shot, welcoming the next group to the resort. if you're going to have us sympathize with the help, make them the only redeemable characters and the ones we latch onto. this was too all over the place with how we were supposed to connect with everyone. there are clear shitheads that aren't developed at all, then there are characters that are given slapdash arcs that are way too convenient and contrived.

there are some laugh out loud moments, and i wasn't ever bored with the show. but it definitely wasn't enough to continue with the other seasons. even knowing it starts all over again with new casts and characters...i just don't care enough to keep up with it.

i think this show, for me, is overrated. it's not that insightful and the satire is thin. again, kind of a let down from mike white.

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You ever seen Heat?

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i saw it in theaters 30 years ago. once was enough. good, not great; some excellent scenes, great acting. little too long.


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