Hardly. Williams weak "supporting cast" came up all the time when "draft experts" rationalized the dropoff in Williams' performance from 2022 to 2023.

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Dane Brugler, one of the top two or three draft analysts, had Maye ranked ahead of Williams for much of the 2023 season. He ultimately ranked Williams as his top QB, but he didn't think there was much difference among the top 3. Nate Tice also had Maye ahead of Williams. Lance Zierlein had Williams and Daniels in a dead heat, with Williams having a marginally higher rating (6.73/10 vs 6.74/10). Louis Riddick had Daniels as his #1 QB prospect for the entire pre-draft evaluation period. That's 4 of the most respected draft analysts in the business, Deni$. Stop tipping cows and start paying attention.

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https://www.cleveland.com/dman/2017/04/ ... e_bru.html



I like it still adds (Pro Bowl QB) in quotes.

This team isn't close enough to being a winner that they can give up day 2 picks to move up in round 1. Stand pat or trade back. Take bpa, hopefully a lineman

If jeanty is indeed poles guy.... then we know from last year poles will have to be physically restrained from trading up to get him.

Pace traded up for projected Andy Dalton and then signed actual Andy Dalton after (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky turned out to not be as good as Andy Dalton. Then traded up for Fields because you obviously can't have Andy Dalton be your starter if you're trying to actually win.

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What does that have to do with him being the consensus 1/1? It was a no doubter.

Dan Orlovsky got to pretend he’s not an idiot and go on a victory tour this offseason because he was maybe the only guy who openly said he preferred Daniels over Williams pre-draft.

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A generational talent. Fair or not that was the narrative. Not that Maye and Daniels were 1B and 1C.

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Brugler, Tice, Zierlein, Riddick and a bunch of other draft "experts" had the top three QBs ranked pretty closely, as I mention in my post above. The idea that Williams was a "no doubter" is revisionism.

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Caleb Williams got hype for social reasons. His 2023 season was abysmal, he looked horrible when he played any half decent team. It was a perfect storm with Bears ownership who is extremely sensitive to appearing progressive.

Daniels was close but there are concerns about how long he can play in that style. Daniels takes a ton of punishment and doesn't seem to have the body type. Maye wasn't close to either.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

50% of the list you used to back up your point had Williams first. One guy had Williams and Maye together and the fourth is an espn employee who liked Daniels because he played in the SEC.

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There was a ton of debate on whether Washington would take Maye or Daniels. There was never a doubt who’d go 1; the reasons for that don’t really matter.

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why is Jalen Milroe at the draft?

Midge, I think you've damaged your brain.

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Make a Wish

This is embarrassing, doesn't mention a thing about if Banks is, ya know, actually good

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Why is the commissioner riding a bicycle?

No Darren Sharper or Marc Chumura?

Clay Matthews really roped me in with his Bears suck joke.

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Holy shit the Jaguars just paid the Browns a fortune for Travis Hunter.

Edit lol

Is Hunter considered likely to be great at anything? I thought he’d be an above average corner and an occasional WR3.

This is the team with the 12yr old GM, no?

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He’s a normal top ten pick as a receiver or corner who gets big ol hype for his gimmick, which to be fair could pan out.

He’s definitely not a top ten pick as a standalone WR.

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Way worse have been taken in the top ten and he’s been a high profile prospect for a half decade now. This is a weak, weak, weak draft. I think he goes even without the gimmick

Abdul Carter confirms that he, in fact, would not exist without parents.

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That was the dream player in the case of a trade up or inexplicable fall. I’d still be thrilled with Mason Graham, but after that nobody is very enthusing.

It's a Packers training camp tradition to ride children's bikes.

Speaking of, the Green Bay school district gave everyone yesterday through tomorrow off for the draft. Those dumb hayseeds are at it again.

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Graham is going 5

Apparently the lakes are still frozen up north of Rhinelander.

Seeing who Goodell chooses as a human boo-shield each year is an annual tradition.

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