One guy who is very unlikely to stay healthy and another guy who has the wear and tear of a 38 year old NFL vet? Oh, and the center who just got paid and can now feel free to just fuck off and ignore football.

You Caleb haters are funny. Why wouldn't Johnson want to work with the #1 pick in the draft last year? Why wouldn't Johnson want to work with Poles if given the freedom to sign and draft players he liked? Why wouldn't Johnson want to stay in the NFC North and beat up on his old rivals and team?

You really think he rather have gone to OAK with no QB and drafted S.Sanders or that Dart kid? T.Brady would be in his ear telling him how to run his offense. You going to argue with the GOAT ?

Duuuball!!!! and T.Lawrence better then the Bears? JAX just mortgaged their future for a gadget player and passed up the best player in the draft.

Johnson is the type of coach we have been waiting for since Ditka. RELAX and go send hate mail to Clay Williams or something.

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yeah, none of that is true

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

right off the top of my head, Ravens with Andrews and Likely

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

If you think these guys they added are so great then why did Ryan Poles acquire them?

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Would it kill you to embed a tweet, Tall Hog?

Oink Oink!!!

Midget wasn't a Caleb hater initially. Don't know if'd classify him as that currently but he definitely wasn't in the beginning.

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I think he may be showing signs of early stage dementia and confusing Williams with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

Thoughts and prayers for Midget.

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Why wouldn't Johnson want to work with Williams? You mean aside from the fact that he struggles to read defenses, has great difficulty throwing from the pocket, and is terrifyingly inaccurate on passes longer than 7 yards down the field?

Why wouldn't he want to work with Poles? You mean aside from the fact that he demonstrably sucks at player evaluation?

Perhaps you're right and Johnson will be the franchise savior. But a lot of your thoughts have a strongly dissociative, hallucinatory quality to them. Maybe hire a round-the-clock team of cognitive and psychological therapists to address your wanton mental disorders, get on some meds, and check back in a few months from now. I have confidence you'll be able to make a modicum of sense at that time.

By the way, who's Clay Williams? One of your imaginary "friends"? Get the dead mouse out of your pocket and try to reconnect with reality.

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Sorry about that, Swami. I fixed it.

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You did?

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I was optimistic about Williams initially, but he was quite disappointing last year. Granted, the coaching was incompetent, but "generational" talents can typically overcome that problem--at least from time to time. I hope I'm wrong about this, but it looks like it's going to take a long time for him to develop into a consistent, accurate pocket passer. That is, unless Ben Johnson truly is the franchise savior--and not Just Another Guy about to get gored by the pervasive ineptitude that has defined Halas Hall for so many years.

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Yes indeed, oh salubrious swine.

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I actually think Ben Johnson doesn’t give a fuck about Caleb Williams and just wanted to coach Da Bears because it’s an old, legendary franchise in a football crazed very large US city. Better than being a sideshow in Vegas.

He can drop Caleb like a bad habit when he wants to. It will take about six quarters of playing like he played last year for Bears fans to snap out of their delusion, especially if the diva act spins up.

The stuff with Ryan Poles though is really worrisome. Even if he’s just a puppet for Johnson to control, that’s a really bad puppet who has tons of baggage already. The Bears have been almost impossibly inept since the Carolina trade.

Had to look up that word, thanks.

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Here’s the thing about Williams: even if he’s sees a charitable amount of improvement (no given in the sophomore season) he’s still woefully short of anything partially resembling “good enough” in the NFL.

Agreed. The amount of improvement he needs to make just to be average is staggering.

I think you're right about Johnson paying lip service to Caleb. He'll give it a go with Williams, but that's Poles' guy--and the mistake that will likely get Poles fired.

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Pretty solid theory. Besides, not fucking around with him from day 1, emphasizing getting the job done or pack your shit, is the way to go. Even if he doesn't mean it.

Yeah but we've been over this before. Separation and splitting your TE out wide aren't going to matter when some edge rusher is killing your QB or alternatively making the QB run for his life.

40+? You want your top 10 pick to aspire to a little over 2 catches a game?

It’s probably rare because of the profile of a tight end. You can’t build an offense out of tight ends.

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I can't help but think of Claw. He's not going to be happy with this team of Twirlers.

who did the anti-Loveland people want to draft at 10?

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Williams or whoever they thought was the best pass rusher.

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Will Johnson DB from Michigan still being on the board going into the 2nd is wild to me. Many people had him close to the top 10.



I think Banks was the Bears guy but he gets nabbed right before the Bears pick -hard luck there. Loveland is a player a lot of people in here will probably love by the end of the season. He’s basically a giant WR who can block. Ben Johnson’s philosophy revolves heavily on being able to use scheme to help his players out so giving him another weapon to work with will go a long way in helping him do that.


Would like to see the Bears address DL in the 2nd with someone like Princley or even Landon Jackson but.. if Will Johnson somehow winds up available at 39 they better sprint his name up to the podium. Dudes a top 10 talent easily. As for RB I’d be ok with Judkins, Henderson, or Caleb Johnson.


Also, Luther Burden is still on the board too which is also a bit wild as he was most peoples WR 1 prior to the season. He’d be another weapon in Johnson’s hands as would Isaiah Bond out of Texas.


Bottom line is the Bears have a lot of options headed into the 2nd -Saftey still has some great talent on the board, WR, DB, DL, and RB are all still loaded and there are going to be some great prospects sitting there still at 39 and 41.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

We are talking about having two productive TEs. 40+ for both is a good number. Hopefully, both aren't at 41.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Somebody not coming off shoulder surgery three months ago.

40s for either would be individually disappointing, and that’s ignoring the resource allocation to two guys who should seemingly aspire to ~75% of Brock Bowers’ production as a collective.

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Mike Green is still available too. I know he might be a creeper but if he’s still there at 39 he’d be worth looking at. But his slide has me worried that teams investigating him aren’t liking what they’re finding out.

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"Last week, Georgia edge rusher Mykel Williams had scouts asking questions after his pro day workout. Weighing in at 267 pounds, Williams was timed at 4.75 seconds in the 40-yard dash. That's well below expectations given his reputation as a high-level mover. And remember, he did not participate in the combine, meaning that pro day showing is his only data point in pre-draft testing. Williams played through an ankle injury for much of the season, so much of his draft projection has been based on upside and potential. But the common comp to the Jaguars' Travon Walker (who ran a 4.51 at 272 pounds) isn't landing. Williams' stock could slip slightly to the middle of Round 1; he's going to be No. 22 in my new rankings, which land this weekend."

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