Maybe a little but probably not much. He's good at that. Against the Wizards down 2 with 30 seconds left he hopped over Gortat and Randle for the board.

Also, like I mentioned above, if we're going that route we also have to agree his percentages are going to rise at least somewhat. Pretty sure he's not gonna finish with the worst TS% in NBA history.

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His ability to hit standstill jump shots will improve. That can get better with practice. Other aspects of his game won't. He doesn't really have much of an "off the bounce" game at all. No handle and he has to play in space to be effective. He never gets by his man unless it's a ball screen. Not good when his shot is challenged either.

His ability to hit wide open shots will get better with practice but he may never be a good shooter. Might be respectable at some point.

He will never be good defensively. He'd have to be a terror offensively to offset his terrible defense.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

You gotta be shittin me FF, " pretty good defensively" absolutely not.

Good passer..yes
Good rebounder..yes

Awful shooter with no defense.

I think he's been fine defensively so far. Not great but he's definitely not awful. He should be guarding opposing 2's/3's though, not PGs, imo.

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Classic good stats on a bad team guy.

You're trolling.

Nope. Ripped it from your guy Wall twice in the open court the other night. He's smart and has good hands and uses his length well. Like I said before, his lack of top end athleticism will prevent him from ever being a great defender, but he's not awful. 50%+ of defense in the NBA is basketball IQ and effort, and Lonzo checks both of those.

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They have already taken to having him guard non offensive players. Never a good sign.

I've never seen LTG school any one this badly, let alone resident NBA expert FavreFan. What a friday!

I would like to see a stat, league wide, of what % of the time both PG/SG/SF/PF/C actually guard each other

Bagels is the resident NBA expert, he just doesn't deem us worthy of his thoughts all that often.

Kyrie, Westbrook, and Markkanen guard all five positions 100% of the time. Everyone else in the NBA gets hidden on non offensive players.

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There is no comparison with Curry

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Defensively he is just as bad. Maybe worse.

The rest of the nba community disagrees with this. I guess you know more though.

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You gotta love how the generalizations just flow.

That's not a generalization. Steph Curry isn't awful defensively, and the vast majority of reports, analysts, and writers that cover the league recognize that.

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I haven't heard anyone say that either is a good defender and I doubt that you have either.

But as great as Westbrook’s been this series (28 points, 11 rebounds, 6.6 assists on average), Curry’s actually given him fits. According to ESPN’s Stats & Info, Curry’s been Westbrook’s primary defender for 25 of his shot attempts. On those plays, Westbrook has only hit 32 percent of them for 0.70 points per play. When anyone else on the Warriors takes on Westbrook, he’s shot 44 percent on 84 attempts, good for 0.97 points per play.


In the Thunder’s Game 4 win, Westbrook shot 3-8 when Curry guarded him, and in Game 5, he shot 0 for 3. In fact, Curry was arguably the best defender on the court on Thursday night, putting up the highest defensive rating (101) of all players who played over 30 minutes. Across both games, Curry has shadowed Westbrook’s kinetic offensive attacks, keeping Westbrook in front of him through tough pick and roll screens.

None of this is new though. When needed, he’s been a top defender for his position for over a year. His Defensive Rating during wins this season has been 102, and he finished 10th in the league in Defensive Win Shares, per Basketball Reference. And while it’s not the best defensive metric, Curry did lead the NBA in steals per game this season. Curry’s defense has never been “underrated,” but it seems like Durant and Westbrook won’t give the handsy guard his due.

http://thesportsquotient.com/nba/2016/4 ... efensively

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/05/21/k ... ff-career/

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ru ... cf7ad4a737



I could keep going. This has actually been a pretty big topic over the last couple years and MANY have given their input on it. Now you can't say you didn't know.

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Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

Your evidence cites the few instances which he guarded Westbrook. This sort of validates the fact that he didn't guard Westbrook when it comes down to it. If he can t defend his position then what's the point of discussing his defense? Same goes for Ball.

Weird, I see Dolphin looking in my asshole

It cited a lot more than just those instances, and it also disproved your notion that I'm the only one who thinks he's not bad defensively.

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