However you want me to partake in yours obviously. .

No, mine is the "prove you're not making excuses for people who abducted and tortured a kid because of the color of his skin" spin-off.

Though considering you seemingly have nothing substantive with which to respond to my highlighting of your logical inconsistencies, I'll take it that you do indeed see the similarities, and just don't want to keep pulling on that string.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

I never addressed Russian hacking and I never said it cost her the election either. You are making stuff up as usual.

The whole Russia thing really is funny though. You have a Presidential candidate and now a President who nearly every day attacks some mainstream US institution or another while defending, by name, a meddling former foreign power and its kleptocratic dictator. Obviously Russia presents no threat to the US in conventional terms, but these are not conventional times. Yet you have extreme tribalists on one side and the JORRs of the world who are intoxicated by the tough-talking authoritarian celebrity-daddy on the other, coming together to prevent people from even thinking about it. Very odd.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Jesus. Are we still doing the "black people need to condemn black criminals and saying they deserve severe punishment and are guilty isn't enough for me!" thing? Let's move on

Not at all. I want to point out that if JORR essentially saying "Trump lies, but so has every President" is an attempt to "excuse" Trump's lying, then so too is saying "what those guys did is awful, but it isn't racist" an attempt to "excuse" those actions.

Ok. But jorr himself would tell you the people from the torture video can't be racist.

Not at all. I want to point out that if JORR essentially saying "Trump lies, but so has every President" is an attempt to "excuse" Trump's lying, then so too is saying "what those guys did is awful, but it isn't racist" an attempt to "excuse" those actions.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

I'm starting to think I'm the only non racist on this board. Y'all need to do some introspection.

I know, and I would disagree, and say that he is excusing their actions, albeit subtly. My qualm was with seeing LTG use the same tactic with JORR in this thread (saying he was excusing Trump's actions) with which LTG was called out on in the original Facebook abduction thread, an allegation he denied vehemently. He wasn't excusing their actions in that thread, he said, but now JORR is excusing Trump's actions by saying essentially the same thing as LTG? That's bullshit.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

You attempted to excuse the actions of Elmhurst Steve with the "what has he ever done" crap and once I provided an example you professed ignorance. Veiled attempt to insinuate that I might be lying.

I had, and still don't really have, a clue as to who Steve is/was as a poster on this board, much less as a human being. Relatively speaking, I am very much a newcomer with little clue as to the full and complete history of the board.

Me not knowing who someone is or was is not in any way an insinuation that you are lying. The fact that you can even type those words out is troubling.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Once again excusing their actions would be advocating that they be allowed to go free.

If that is what constitutes "excusing", how is JORR referencing the lying of others an "excusing" of Trump's lying? By your definition here, JORR actually "excusing" Trump's lying would look like him saying that Trump never lies. Has he done that?

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

You were the person that brought him up. For a person that doesn't know who he happens to be you sure had no problem attempting to defend him.

Ok. But jorr himself would tell you the people from the torture video can't be racist.

I would. And I also don't think the situations are similar. But I'm not excusing Trump and LTG isn't excusing the kidnappers.

One thing we all should be able to agree on. Trump hasn't told a lie that has gotten anyone killed. At least not yet.

If a Democrat had spoken about Putin in the glowing terms in which Trump has their patriotism would be questioned.

Unless you mean just as a presidential candidate/President I don't believe that.

Who do you think he has gotten killed with a lie?

See, that's not what JORR did to warrant you saying he "excuses" Donald Trump's lying. Here's what you said:



JORR, I don't think, has ever said that Donald Trump isn't a liar, nor that he doesn't lie. In fact, I believe JORR has once or twice called out Trump for lying, in this very thread, yet you say that mentioning the lying of other politicians is [a subtle] excusing of Trump's lies specifically.

I don't know whether that is true in the absolute sense, but it sure does seem incongruous logically for you to hold that position when you have also said that, while the actions of those four black assailants are abominable (like JORR calling out Trump's lying in certain instances), they're "not racist", which is a subtle rolling back of the severity of their actions, much like JORR mentioning other Presidents lying as a subtle excuse for Trump telling falsehoods.

If you want to call what JORR did/does "excuse-making", then you are guilty of the very same "excusing" by calling 4 black assailants kidnapping and assaulting a boy in part because he is white "bad, but not racist".



I've told you before that I have no interest in playing your "Prove You're Not a RACIST" game show.

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

No, mine is the "prove you're not making excuses for people who abducted and tortured a kid because of the color of his skin" spin-off.

Though considering you seemingly have nothing substantive with which to respond to my highlighting of your logical inconsistencies, I'll take it that you do indeed see the similarities, and just don't want to keep pulling on that string.

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

He is not being logically inconsistent. He would only be hypocritical if he had said, "yeah, what they did was wrong but there have been lots of tortures and murders throughout history."

What if a Democrat did nothing as Putin took Crimea?

Or drew multiple lines in Syria ,or using WMD in Syria

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

JLN, this is like chas level bad false equivalency. If this were "Who You Crappin", you would have been shotgunned after the second sentence.