If this board is any indication, the people who are most like him socio economically dislike him the most

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You really believe both of those statements? 670 is littered with Jewish people and I'm pretty sure that's not a reason why people dislike certain on-air talent on the score. You think there are more conservatives in Chicago and surrounding area than liberal? Or do you feel (or even know) that the target market leans conservative? I'm not sure on that. I certainly don't think if he was conservative that would make him beloved.

I'll also point out that while people can hate on Bernstein I don't think there is anyone else close in Chicago sports radio who was as good as Boers and Bernstein were in their best moments. I listened to MJH every day and loved it but there is no chance they could have a highlight reel similar to what OKC put out there on the internet.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

This. And it was shown for absolutely no reason to that Eddie Barstool guy. I can't wait to go back to hating everything Barstool. Bernstein has now ruined that for me too.

Shit. That would explain all the weird looks I got when I got off my flight last week.

Barstool sending an online mob against Bernstein's wife and kids isn't enough for you?

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Not quite yet. I haven' t seen the kids stuff. I'm sure its going to get to a point where its going to be overly gross. I know its wrong, but this is Bernstein's doing. He always gets away with shit or gets a slap on the wrist when others would suffer way more for the same mistakes. Gone far too long getting away with shit.

Mac and North were both addicts when they got fired. That grates on even the best of friends.

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I think we can all agree that LoHo catching any strays is funny.

Can confirm. Am a Jew doing well financially and I think all others here in that category dislike Bernstein as well.

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Well said and agreed.

lol to "MANY" people not finding him likable because Jewish scrawny nerd, what an incredibly super shitty brush to paint with (especially, as has been said, in a thread/forum with plenty of reasons why people have soured on the guy). He's a pseudo intellectual hypocrite who quite seriously will tell people whether or not he has decided if it's ok that they celebrate a win or very_slowly explains to people how they should interpret something someone said or did ALL THE WHILE being just a wacky normal guy who works himself into a half chub talking about his McDonalds order, you know because he's "an id10t" - so relatable and such a juxtaposition for such a smart guy!!!11!!!!!

Is it ok if I edit that to make it readable?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I would guess that LoHo would be happy for the attention.

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FTFY

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I look forward to The House of L covering this.

Because they believed he lowered himself for a bunch of idiots? I disagree. I think he gave a voice to the sports data nerds. MANY of them were/are likely sports data nerds.

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Why does Bernstein get judged so harshly for MANY of the same traits that his critics appreciate in the entertainers they love? Why is Bernstein being judged harshly for things we're all guilty of?

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GO BEARS!!!

It's true. 2006-2011, they were at the top of their game.

It's weird to think that the Joe in Evanston call was significantly closer to, say, the Columbine shooting (9 years, 10 months) than it is to the present (15 years, 7 months). The passing of time, man.

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They were a comedy show that was informed by sports. Somewhere along the line that stopped. Penn State was the Rubicon, but it went bad before that.

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General Jim wears Fort Bragg down... to get it!

I remember it being the other way around: Penn State was the bad omen, but it was the Derrick Rose injury when the fun stopped for good and the board started to turn on him. IMAGINE BEING THIS GUY'S BOSS.

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I’ve mentioned it before, but the show was over when during a quote of the year show, usually the funniest and entertaining shows of the year, some middling Penn State news broke. They subsequently did all the quotes, but instead of laughing about them or having fun with them, they went right back to dumping on PSU. I’m all about shitting on Penn State, but they really showed their ass that day.

I loved Bernstein and North when I started listening to sports radio in the summer of 2003. North was easily the best of the "guy in the bar" crowd, and Bernstein fused sophomoric humor with data focused sports talk. I don't recall anyone doing what Bernstein was doing. If they were, they weren't as effective.

Twenty Years later, everyone is doing the data driven talk on some level. The sophomoric humor has been removed, and there isn't a regular host doing the bar bit.

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I guess this speculation over Bernstein's likability proves that some of you really don't listen much anymore, and are telling the truth about that...

Bernstein isn't a curmudgeon anymore, he's more simply checked out.

And even his lingering prick sensibilities and elitism when it comes to sports opinions are known to be a heightened radio persona. It sounds to me like whenever they reference Bernstein on a personal level, he's well-liked. I remember this summer Spiegel mentioned Dan taking Spiegel's son fishing.

sure, Murph hates him (and Huebner by association), but you have to remember that Murph wasn't a radio prick, he was a jerkoff on a colleague level. That's why it's not apples to apples when thinking of the piling on Murph versus lack of piling on (again, it's just Barstool tools in a one-way feud) with Bernstein.

Was the D-Rose injury saga when Terry really started to lean heavily on "Yeah that's what my guy says too..." when Dan would get daily updates from [someone close to] Michael Reinsdorf?

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It's not being a jerkoff on a colleague level to go on the air the day after a colleague is fired and thank management for doing it?

where does CTE squeeze in there?

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the golden era of the Score, which Bernstein had no part in, was as good as it got for me

I wouldn't put any Dan show even in the top 3

1. Monsters
2. MJH
3. HFC

also, the frustrating thing about Dan's, and most sports talkers for that matter, data analytics is that they have zero expertise to know the good from the bad, or even to explain to the listener the flaws of a particular analysis. Analytics to these people is the same thing as "follow the science". They saw that Theo used it. They thought Theo was smart. So, they would be thought of as smart if they used it as well. Meanwhile, Theo had moved on to some over data not available to them that they would only hear about 5 years after it had become important to MLB execs.

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no, I think that's a different level

and I think that's proven true since McNeil doesn't have a personal grudge against Bernstein either, at least I am not aware of one

Think it bookended the Penn State stuff.

Chris Henry dies in late 2009;
Penn State story begins rumbling March 2011;
Junior Seau dies May 2012;
Derrick Rose has ACL surgery May 2012;