It would be completely different if Keyser didn't like Madirgal because of a hitch in his swing, or footwork, or something else concrete that could be explained.

Instead he just dismisses him because of his height which just flat out stupid. The last two AL MVP's were "midgets" as well.

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Yeah it makes no sense....but that is keyser

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why shouldn't he be great. You don't have to be a power hitter to be great at baseball, although he may not be a saber darling.

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He'll be great to watch since he doesn't miss the baseball very often.

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Tools
(Future grades on 20-80 scouting scale)
Hit: 65 | Power: 40 | Run: 60 | Arm: 50 | Field: 55 | Overall: 55


Ryan Theriot?

I thought his fielding was supposed to be elite, like immediate gold glove candidate level

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From my 3 minutes of research they acted like he's an infielder without a set position.

They can't all be Albert Almora.

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Agree, he barely strikes out.

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That's probably a decent comp for him.

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One of my baseball buddies used to attend a client meeting with Theriot’s brother who was the CFO of the company and ran the meeting.

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Yikes, that's not so great.

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I'm deathly afraid he's Juan Pierre. I guess last year he was fighting a wrist injury so maybe that was why he was so slappy.

Well, I don't think he's going to be a Hall of Famer but his best three or four years will probably be good enough to lead off and play the middle infield on a championship team.

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Yeah, we're fucked

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come on. My guess is none of you have even seen him play. I haven't

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Every facet of this organization deserves extreme skepticism right now. Kenny and Rick Hahn are terrible at their jobs and they selected Madrigal, why wouldn't I worry that yeah, Theriot is actually probably a realistic comp.

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They both played elite level college. How did they compare?

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Let's not act as if Theriot was a worthless bum. He hit .280 for his career and got on base 34% of the time. He played on two World Series winners.

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but if we are projecting the two using past production as an indicator, I assume Madrigal's college career dwarfed Theriot.

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Madrigal
Year Team POS AVG OBP SLG OPS GP AB R H 2B 3b HR RBI HP BB SO SB CS

2016 .333 .380 .456 .836 49 195 38 65 11 5 1 29 1 15 14 8 2
2017 .380 .449 .532 .981 60 237 53 90 20 2 4 40 6 27 16 16 4
2018 INF .367 .428 .511 .939 42 180 41 66 9 4 3 34 4 16 7 15 1

Theriot
Year Team League Lvl Org Unif Pos Age G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP SH SF IBB DP AVG OBP SLG OPS TB XBH PA babip ISO SecA wOBA BB% SO% K-BB HR% AB/HR XBH%
1999 LSU College Fr 1 2b 19 65 242 55 78 11 3 2 41 13 7 52 33 8 1 4 0 5 .322 .451 .417 .868 101 16 307 .360 .095 .335 .398 16.94 10.75 0.63 0.65 121.00 20.51
2000 Louisiana State Universit SEC NCAA-1 2b 20 69 275 68 84 14 3 2 41 7 3 57 30 3 4 2 0 6 .305 .427 .400 .827 110 19 341 .335 .095 .316 .379 16.72 8.80 0.53 0.59 137.50 22.62
2001 Louisiana State Universit SEC NCAA-1 2b 21 67 266 67 94 18 3 1 48 48 35 17 3 6 4 7 0 4 .353 .395 .455 .850 121 22 300 .346 .102 .214 .369 5.67 1.00 0.18 0.33 266.00 23.40

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What does that tell me?

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I'm going to hope for more of a Paul Molitor type comp.

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If Madrigal is Theriot in a comp, the Sox need to rethink their draft philosophy.

Theriot was a helluva college player, even battling through injury after walking on iirc.

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Which recent Cub first rounder outside of Bryant do you think is better than Theriot?

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Almora, Baez

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I dont care about the Cubs.

If Madrigal is a journeyman infielder, combined with the other early first round failures during this round of "rebuilding", then it's a massive failure and everyone needs to be fired.

Or killed.

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Theriot could hit though. Not a bad lil ballplayer

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Now you're fantasizing like a Cub fan. Just because you decide to throw away seasons doesn't mean you suddenly draft Hall of Famers.

Look at the great Theo Epstein first rounders. Bryant, maybe Ellsbury, and a bunch of guys who aren't as good as Theriot.

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