Next time make a prediction and state it as false dumbass.

...or at least base it on some modicum of evidence.

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It's possible. He needs to take a jump up in production in year 2.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It’s actually very deniable. His arm is garbage. So what, he’s elusive…though I guess not elusive enough to avoid being sacked sixty-eight times.

That's my bad, should have said Daniels.

Stroud was also used as a cudgel to beat the Bears over the head with last year, this year it's Daniels. Stroud had such a drop off Bobby Slowik went from hot HC candidate to fired.

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Just another example of how rookie QB years don't matter.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

There are far more questions about Williams' ability to play in the NFL than there are about Stroud's.

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Rookie year sack rates do seem to matter....a lot.

Throwing accurately also matters. Hopefully Caleb will be able to do that one day.

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And there were less questions about Stroud's prior to last year, now there are more. Point is, things change fast in the NFL.

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CORRECT

Williams, Davis, Velus Jones are glaring examples of Poles misfires on personal character.

Like I said before he was drafted, Washington would have paid a kings ransom to get him. We still would have gotten Daniels, and would have had multiple other high picks on top of it.

I know there is an arguement that Poles would have butchered those picks as well.

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In his two seasons he’s been on two division championship teams and has two playoff wins. Now its not like he’s Joe Burrow just willing an otherwise two-win team as far as he can take them, but Houston rides a pretty enviable amount of success off him. Especially when you compare it to the Bears who are challenging to be the NFL’s most profound basement dweller.

But just for a thought exercise imagine offering Caleb Williams for CJ Stroud in a trade with Houston. Imagine the response. I mean, its fucking comical.

There you go talking out of your ass again. Unless you are in the locker room and know what is said about Williams, you have no clue if his teammates liked him or not.

Moore was a Fields guy. Off course he is not going to be thrilled with Williams filling his friends spot. He didn't seem to do much to help Williams last season. Moore quit on plays and looked lost in Waldon's offense, like the majority of the team last year. His frustration could easily be a reflection on the coaching staff then it was with Caleb.

Daniels replaced a bunch of journeymen QB's in Washington and had a professional staff to set the culture in Washington. I am not surprised he did well and players liked him. That has zero to do with Caleb.

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Chase Claypool, Tyrique Stevenson, Montez Sweat…the list just goes on. And the hilarious thing is they passed on a future Hall of Famer over character concerns, like the one time it was worth the risk (though I actually like Stevenson) they went for the mediocre safe pick. Absolute clown org.

It was widely reported that only Shane Waldron & Matt Eberflus were allowed to even talk to Caleb Williams from the coaching staff. And that passing game coordinator Thomas Brown essentially had to introduce his existence to Williams when he got promoted to OC halfway through the season.

All the information to piece together what a complete piece of shit, intolerable, egomaniac teammate Caleb Williams is already exists. You just chose to ignore it or stick your fingers in your ears.

You continue to innovate in exploring new depths of stupidity. Not only do you struggle with comprehending the writing of others...but you are also incapable of comprehending the meaning of your own writing.

Williams' inability to win over Moore despite the fact that Fields, a marginal NFL QB, was the team's previous starter is a major indictment of Williams, not an argument in his favor.

You have unwittingly--and witlessly--made my argument for me.

You are a half of a wit short of being a halfwit.

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link to this widely reported information

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It was frequently discussed on Hoge & Jahns, WSCR, and CHGO, among other outlets.

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so link to it

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The final act of Ricky’s petulant little routine is him wrestling some control over the argument by forcing you to Google things.

provide a link to the widely reported information you Nazi freak, it shouldn't be hard.

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What you really want me to do is what you demand. It’s not even about arguing about football or anything, its just you being a burrito.

I don't care who links to it, I'd prefer you drown in a bathtub but all I'm asking is for a link.

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Ross Tucker firmly laying the Lions Thanksgiving game at the feet of Caleb Williams and his ego today on Mull and haugh.

The replay is on the Score website, last five minutes or so or the interview.

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What has Williams done to alienate his teammates? Is this all about Moore? Or are there other situations I am not remembering?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I heard that, I'm asking for a link to this insane idea that only Matt Eberflus and Shane Waldron were "allowed" to talk to Caleb last year. Resident Nazi and mental patient USA is trying to tell people that the QB coach, Kerry Joseph, wasn't allowed to talk to the QB last year.

That's a pretty stupid takeaway from Ross Tucker, but I don't care about him so whatever.

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What was stupid about his takeaway?

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No, I proved my point when you have to result in insults to deflect your stupid comments.

You're the one struggling to understand the writing of others. We have no idea what Moore thinks of Caleb. Show me where Moore says he hates Caleb or that he didn't impress his teammates.

Moore's love of Fields was obviously not because he was a good QB. Maybe he was a good guy who bought drinks. Who the hell knows.

To claim that we know what goes on in the minds of the players without facts is just plain arrogant and makes you sound like a narcissistic, unhinged psychopath who goes around calling people half wits on a message board.

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The HC needs to call timeout in that situation, there is no other takeaway.

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The Caleb ball washing has taken on a very familiar tone to the exact same Justin Fields delusions. Like the rest of the football world has woken up to a certain reality but Bears fans are about twelve months late in accepting it.

Every coach with the Bears understood their careers were tied to his growth or failure. The idea that any of them would leave him to fend for himself should have been immediately dismissed as bullshit, regardless of how incompetent anyone thinks they were. Keenan Allen talked on Mercedes Lewis podcast about how Waldron figuratively bent over backwards to make things easy for Caleb and how Caleb had to learn how to prepare as a professional. Caleb played 17 games and he still couldn't get the operation of plays down for an entire game. Kmet was correcting him in the huddle. That ain't coaching.

Last year, we heard Swift, Moore, Allen, etc talk about an unnamed player not putting in the right work. By the end of the season, it was clear that they were talking about Caleb. Not that he wasn't working hard, but that he wasn't doing the right kind of work. Kmet got so frustrated, he said on his podcast, he was going to focus on himself.

This kid has to mature quickly or he's going to kill his own potential. He has ZERO excuses this year. It's time to grow up or sit down.

Edit: The coaches Caleb interacted with was small by design. Not because Caleb made the decision. Having 90 coaches in a rookie quarterback's ear is bad, according to the NFL. The number of coaches in his ear is still small.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!