Poles thought this team was ready to win and contend. He was wrong. It seems crazy to draft a guy in the 3rd round who you have no intention of playing. A year later, I'm not even sure he's considered an answer to this OL even with all of the issues. He's probably a backup, at best, next season.

we know nothing about amigadije

I wouldn't rely on him or rule him out. No matter, we MUST get better across IOL. Money needs to be spent both in FA and draft.

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We know he had a brief guest role as a turnstile mid-season and that he couldn’t find the field when they were down to third string guys.

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He'll be on the roster, but, so far, he's been projected as a LT. Braxton Jones is under contract for next season for $3.3M and is probably the LT unless they draft a LT early in the draft. If they do that, can Jones play inside? Is he a swing OT? Same questions on Kiram? Is he the swing tackle next season? If they draft a LT early, what does that say about Kiram's future? Again, it would be shocking if he's not on the roster, but there's realistic scenario's where he's the last OL on the roster.

We know he had an injury that would have been virtually impossible to rehab and build back to NFL strength in time to play this year.

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I thought it’d have been rude for me to call him bad and injury prone.

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Picking an odd hill to die on my friend, his feet are terrible, and how could Poles get an adequate read on a guy that he could not put through an NFL level evaluation, could see the 6th round or later, but not the third.

Did see they changes strength coaches, maybe they can get him in the weight room and build him into a swing tackle or guard. Ben Johnson likes large angry men on his offensive line, no more underwear olympic guys that look like Tarzan but play like Jane, but then again, even Jane would be quicker off the line than amigadije, and would know what she was supposed to do on each play.

Poles needs to cut the shit with the projects and injured players. Draft guys who have great tape and look good actually playing football who don’t come pre-injured. Hopefully Ben Johnson has a big voice with this stuff and isn’t a pre-injured project guy too.

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Skattebo just confirmed the Bears are 1 of 9 teams that he's had a formal interview with so far.

updated biggest need is now a pass rusher, which is the strength of this draft (along with RB)

still need to keep drafting OL in every single draft

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he had a hell of a bowl game, but is he actually a draftable prospect?

He had a 40.5 vertical, he is a unbelievable athlete.

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Can he jump out of a pool?

Seems to be a lot of smoke lately about the Bears looking at Tyler Warren TE out of Penn State in the first round.

You guys that look at the draft stuff more than I do, is he worth looking at that high in the draft?

I do not think the RB will be there, but it seems pretty likely this kid will be there.

I would prefer they stick to either OL or DL with this pick.

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Teams who take RBs in the first round are fools.

I think he’s the most talented TE in this class. In the right hands he could develop into a very dangerous weapon at the NFL level. Great size and athleticism, big production this past season for Penn State. He has a lot of ‘Travis Kelce’ in him as far as how he could be used in a scheme.


I wouldn’t hate the pick just like I wouldn’t hate a Jeanty pick. I’d still prefer them to address the trenches but I have to admit their direction in FA combined with the overall depth with certain positions in the draft gives them wiggle room to get creative at 10 with that 1st pick. One of my dark horse picks at 10 for them is Michigan DB Will Johnson which would give the Bears two potential lockdown guys at that spot on their defense. I have no idea how the Bears feel about Will but it would be a potential low key brilliant grab due to how it could help create defensive pressure due to coverage sacks.


I’ll add that I haven’t been blown away by their top-30 visits for the most part either. I know many fans are hoping Ben Johnson is more of the architect with personnel but unfortunately I continue to see Poles like trends with these choices. I don’t think the Bears are very good at identifying talent in the draft and probably need a complete overhaul in that department.


In short, we’re going to see some head scratching picks on draft night this year is my guess. Poles continues to look for try hard underdogs that have very obvious flaws or at least question marks.

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from Sharp:

Key Stats & Notes for the Bears Heading into the 2025 NFL Draft:



Gained 20 or more yards on 4.4% of offensive plays, ranked 28th.

D’Andre Swift ranked 47th out of 47 qualified running backs in rushing yards over expected per attempt, per NextGenStats.


26.9% of offensive sets of downs led to a third-and-long situation (seven or more yards), ranked 31st.


Generated pressure in 2.5 seconds or less on 20.3% of opponent dropbacks, ranked 24th.


Allowed 8.4 yards per attempt when in man coverage, ranked 30th.


Allowed 51.4% completion rate on throws 10 or more yards downfield, ranked 28th.


Allowed 10 or more yards on 13.1% of carries by running backs, ranked 30th

Will the Bears pass on Green because of character?

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I'm hoping for the Mason Graham fall to 10 with the Bears picking him so one of our great sports talkers can note the racial overtones of him versus Carter

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The Bears would be ecstatic if Graham was still there at number 10

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No chance. A different white supremacist organization will pick him well before 10.

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Such an interesting draft. I assume another QB (Sanders/Dart?), maybe two, find their way into the top 10 still, but I only think 3 players are guaranteed to go in top 10:
Cam Ward
Abdul Carter
Travis Hunter

There is probably going to be some players who slip out of the top 10 who were showing up consistently in the mock drafts, but will be super interesting to see how this all plays out. Graham had seemed to be, maybe still is, a top 10 pick, but if guys like Jeanty/Warren climb up, mix in a few OL, and someone's going to be there for Chicago who maybe they thought may have been gone.

One week away.

I think the pick is going to be Kelvin Banks. It's the logical move. Fits the idea that an OL can be overhauled in one year. Suddenly, you have a lot of talent on that starting line and some pretty good depth.

I don't think the Bears are going to take Green as a pass rusher. That just isn't in their make up. Other edges all have limited numbers.

I'm on board with this not exciting pick/

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I think they trade down and take an edge guy or a tackle

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I don't think many teams want to trade up, so this scenario seems unlikely. But maybe they'll get lucky and someone will overpay to reach on one of the QBs.

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That is possible, but hopefully some team gets nervous about their guy going and is willing to jump up.

TM what is your thoughts on taking the RB or TE at 10?

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Supposedly Johnson really wants Jeanty which is apparently no secret since Bears first choice will be a RB is the shortest price on the board

If they are going to use draft capital to move up, I say go for the Giants pick to get the edge rusher. But their best bet is to draft in their current spots and get three solid players.

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Some prices:
Bears 1st pick

RB +165
TE +320
DL/edge +410
OL +500
LB +850