DePaul games.

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When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus. - Turkish Proverb

Right, exactly. How many Final Fours are there? How many acts do stadium tours? It reminds me of the artful dodging around Arlington Park: somehow it's not a big deal if there are big crowds pouring onto the roads ten times a year, but also there are going to be enough events to not only pay for a domed stadium but also sustain a giant strip mall around it. Which is it? Neither, God willing.

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i would like to see a 100,000 seat stadium if its basketball, or the seats fold in for 85k if its football, and for other events the seats fold all the way in, leaving a gigantic indoor space. with that, you would qualify for the olympics.

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Pistons played in the 80,000 seat Silverdome for years. Awful venue for anything other than monster truck pulls, wrestling and football on Thanksgiving. Basketball setup involved putting up a giant curtain to block off much of the arena.

Part of a weird run of the NBA in domed stadiums that also included the Sonics at the Kingdome, the Spurs at the Alamodome, and the Timberwolves at the Metrodome:

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Red Hot Chili Peppers, inexplicably

They could if they had half a brain. Unfortunately, they're half a brain short.

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You appear to be correct. Apparently, the only person dumber than the McCaskeys is the guy they hired to be the brains of their operation.

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Thanksgiving football, outside at Tigers Stadium.

AWESOME

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I once attended a baseball game at the Kingdome. It was the most dull and soulless sporting venue in which I have ever step foot. I cannot imagine what it would have been like for basketball.

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

That's brutal.

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Yeah, that's when the T-Wolves were just opening every section of the Metrodome no matter how dumb so that they could break attendance records.

I like the little Family Fun Fair behind the stands and next to the rolled-up astroturf.

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isnt breaking attendance records profitable? or you mean free tickets like womens college sports?

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It was always a bluff but an obvious and rushed one. Kevin Warren has no shame or he'd be pretty embarrased by how flat this has fallen.

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I still don't see a roadmap to Arlington Heights: like, literally, the roads can't handle 65,000 people getting in and out of there.

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There was an image posted of another stadium with what appeared to me to be an indoor golf driving-range across the road from the actual stadium. someone explained the mini-Pritzker Pavilion looking structure was actually an entry point for a shuttle-train into the stadium?

Maybe you put a bunch of parking a bit away from the stadium/entertainment district. Folks park remotely, tailgate remotely as well, and then take a shuttle train/bus into and out of the game.

The low-cost, regional, frog-owned Allegiant Air constructed a new terminal at BNA (Nashville) that's disconnected from the main terminal. So now you have to pile on a bus with a bunch of fellow passengers from various flights and take a 5 minute bus ride to the main terminal before collecting luggage/exiting.

If you're trying to establish a before/after/other times entertainment district like the Red Sox have with Fenway or Cubs are trying with Wrigley, you can't moat the stadium with parking lots, like the Dolphins did down in Miami.

In theory, yes, but my informal market research shows that most Bears fans are ridiculously horned up for parking lots. They want to drive to the game, eat pasta salad over asphalt/engine fumes, go to the game, and leave. They would weep tears of joy if the Bears had a stadium in an ocean of parking lots.


This is the dream, except the Bears wouldn't win six Super Bowls.

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They'd definitely have to reconfigure the roads. There is a way to have tailgating and integrate it into a park setting. The Metra would get more use than people think as well. Only the McCaskeys could buy all that land and end up where they are right now. They're just complete dolts.

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if that's the dream, then they should be looking southwest for a suitably large chunk of real estate (with reasonable access to downtown). Going northwest into the teeth of already clogged roads and built-up towns seems doomed to fail.

You might have to give up on, or at least scale-back the year-around entertainment district idea--no one's hauling ass to the southwest exurbs for non-Bears/non-large-one-off events (concerts, world cup soccer friendlies, monster truck pulls). But if you're trying to appease Bears fans then you go with the Dolphins/Patriots model.

Foxboro/Gillette is actually closer to downtown Providence, RI than downtown Boston.

I went to the Bears-Dolphins game in Miami in 2018. Total nightmare getting in and out by car. They closed off an entire side of the freeway for some unknown reason. Arl Parks only hope is the Metra moves way more people than they're expecting it to.

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Extending a train line to the stadium site would be a decade long process. But I think that would be ideal.

They could do what they did down in northwest Atlanta. They literally laid down new roads/asphalt parallel to the existing roads leading to and from Mercedes Benz stadium. Made driving down there mad confusing. I ended up leaving my rental car parked at the hotel and calling for rides; I kept driving on these new, empty roads that didn't have turn-offs/exits it seemed until you got up on the stadium. This was right around when they opened the stadium.

How would they do it, and who would pay for it? The bottleneck on Euclid from Dryden to Northwest Highway isn't going anywhere, and that's where people from points east are driving. Who's taking the Metra? People from Park Ridge, maybe. Are we expecting people to take trains into the West Loop, back out again, and vice versa? Chicagoland infrastructure is designed to get people into, around, and out of a densely built central location. All these creative solutions amount to making a dog walk on its hind legs.


It has never made sense. The supporters have always done this weird motte-and-bailey between "oh it's just a few Sundays with bad traffic" to "it will be a year-round entertainment mecca" without even acknowledging that we could barely handle crowds of 15,000 at the track. Arlington Heights is old. It was not designed to be the Bears' parking lot.

It sounds like what you're proposing is that the Bears buy Chicagoland Speedway down in Joliet and build there, which would be an inconvenient drive lots of people, but my god, the parking would be exquisite.

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How they'd do it is not something I could even speculate on that wouldn't be a total guess, possibly a ramp directly into the west end of the site from 53? Probably not though. The state would be paying for any road improvements. The Metra would carry people from Ogilvie, presumably after they traveled there from points across the city and southern and western burbs. The Bears should be so much farther along at this point, but of course they're not with George as CEO.

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So train from Tinley Park to La Salle Street, walk to Ogilvie, eat Popeye's while waiting for train, 50-minute train out to Rollin' Meadows, eat parking lot pork, watch Bears lose, reverse. I'm a big believer in public transit and even I think that's a prison sentence. Everyone would rather drive than do that.

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If you're from Tinley definitely, I just think it would capture a lot of the city fans.

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Has it ever been published where the majority of season ticket holders live? I'm sure the Bears know and that's why Arlington Park might have been seen as more attractive than anywhere else. I just do not understand (other than George and Ted are idiots) how they were so swift and decisive in buying the land for almost $200 million and now they seem totally caught off guard by the reality of the property they bought.

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I've never seen anything official, but my intuition says most ticketholders would be on the North Shore or in southern DuPage County (Naperville to Brookfield, to put a finer point on it) because that's where the money is. I'd put the city proper third and the northwest burbs fourth. This is why I've been in hysterics about traffic from the east and south: 290 and 355 suck, but getting here en masse from the North Shore has the potential to be an unmitigated goatfuck.

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There is a Metra? In front of the new soldier's FIELD? Why caint people tak PUBIC transits to the Gayme and snack on some BARNIBYS after ya thin CRUST be there is 50 seconds from THE bears (of chicago) at Arlington presented by WEDNIEs?

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Do you think the Bears play out their lease at Soldier Field? That's where I'm at now.

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