Nope he won't. And if he has only one season as a Top 10 QB does that mean he's a "top 10 QB"? Just Asking A Question

_________________

.

Great. I think he will be a top 10 QB at least once during his rookie deal. Likely more than once.

Um, yes.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Here is Brick back in March obviously focusing on the rookie stats of each only now proclaiming that he didn't.

_________________

.

Might be time to pull up all of the posts about "can throw"/"can't throw" too. Then it really gets "interesting"

_________________

.

I loved Burrow. He looked ready to start in the championship game.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I have no idea what point you are making. I asked you about 15 times if Williams would outperform Fields as a Bear. You refused to answer 15 times.

I have, at times, had discussions that include the fact that Williams is a rookie, mostly because Williams is a rookie.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It's odd that you believe that "supporting cast" doesn't matter in the case of Fields and his performance yet immediately argue that it does in the case of Joe Burrow.

Why does the performance of Joe Burrow hinge heavily om his supporting cast but yet with Justin Fields it does not? Just Asking A Question

_________________

.

I was talking about what Burrow had at LSU.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Doesn't matter where the stats were accumulated. It doesn't change the point or hypocrisy involved. It's clear that supporting cast mattered in the case of Burrow but not Justin Fields according to you.

_________________

.

You seem to be grasping at straws now. I believe the only thing I talked about with Fields and his supporting cast was that if the OL was as bad as you seem to think they why did he hold the ball more than any other QB in the league last year. The OL is bad then get rid of it.

Williams is taking way too many sacks too but we'll have to see why when we have more data on how long Williams is holding it.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The pre draft consensus was he was head and shoulders above any other quarterback in a strong quarterback class. I was told there was no other option but to pick him. No matter the haul. I eventually had to agree there was no haul forthcoming, so take him.

So here we are. He better be good to great and he better be in a Super Bowl or two in Chicago or this defense would have been wasted. There should be enormous pressure and the hottest of seats for all involved. And frankly, it should start in week 10 with the Packers.

And I don't want to hear about it's all luck after I was reamed for calling the QB position a crapshoot last winter. Let's keep the revisionist history to a minimum.

The hypocrisy is clearly evident in your statement.

_________________

.

More fuel for those making excuses for Fields?

_________________
"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

Now show me where I said Fields supporting cast didn't matter, and not some vague reference to Darnell Mooney or something.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Horse has already left the barn regarding the revisionist historians. Whenever anyone questioned this kid was any good or better than Fields they were immediately dismissed as being part of the "Fields Cult" or some other nonsense. Now that the games are being played he is a "typical rookie" who is just going through all of the growing pains that ALL ROOKIES go through.

_________________

.

When I stated that it does you claimed that I was "making excuses".
.

_________________

.

Isn't that an excuse though? You talk tough about how bad Williams will be and yet you have to set a bar where Williams either is worse or has better options around him.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You obviously claimed supporting cast didn't matter and now you claim in the case of Burrow that it does. The essence of hypocrisy.

_________________

.

It both matters and it's an excuse. As I pointed out though, Fields, with a terrible OL, held the ball longer than any other QB in the league last year. Fields isn't 100% to blame for failing in Chicago. He's also not 0% to blame for failing in Chicago.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Chicago is much more to blame for Fields than Fields is to blame for Chicago.

And another thing. You erroneously claimed that Williams would be better than Fields and better "fairly quickly". Well fairly quickly Isn't sometime in Year 2 as you are now trying to spin it.

And another thing. You look rather foolish continuously claiming that Fields "can't throw". The kid has a cannon. So next time you want to regale the world with what you know about football, do me a favor and don't.

_________________

.

I said you should be able to tell if a guy has something special, even if there is chaos around him. I still believe that. Fields had far more talent than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had his rookie year. Burrow was taking a beating and you could see it before his injury. I feel the same way about Caleb. Regardless of the o-line play or the running back, we should know before the season is over.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Thanks Brick McCarver

_________________

.

I said that if Fields wants to succeed he has to learn to be able to throw in Pittsburgh. He actually finally had a good passing game yesterday there.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Here’s what we know right now. Two of the ten best quarterbacks in the NFL were available to the Bears the last two years (I actually think CJ Stroud might be a tad of the o-word, but most people agree he’s one of the ten best) and both times the Bears passed on them to get Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams is not one of the ten best quarterbacks in the NFL right now, he’s not even in the top twenty, he’s probably worse than most team’s backups (including the Bears) at this time.

If you cannot cope with these facts as a Bears fan fine, but don’t expect the rest of us to indulge your delusions.

1. You stupidly claimed that he "can't throw". 2. Even dumber considering that he had a 2 game stretch last season where he passed for 8 touchdowns combined

_________________

.

He couldn't throw in Chicago. He may be learning to throw in Pittsburgh. Congrats on his second career 300 yard passing game in 42 starts!

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

"Keep your stupid football thoughts to yourself...and also Justin Fields had two good games in a row last year! That proves he's a competent passer!"

EDIT: 2 fumbles yesterday as well.

This is the best QB play we’ve seen since Cutler, and probably better, as Cutty was a see-the-guy-open kind of thrower.

The TD throw to Moore and the seam to Kmet were throws no Bear QB would’ve made. It’s week 4 and he didn’t do anything egregiously stupid. He’s improving every week and nothing about it is gimmicky.

_________________

Mitch made those throws and many better. Fields easily could make them too. Its nothing special, you just want it to be.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's Pro Bowl year is the standard for the Bears. It's a shame it was only one year.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!