When I provide the basis for Caleb and his suckage, I do not just simply cite QBR Hartgrove.

And again in true Heiny Bird like fashion, you'll be back tomorrow contesting the "legitimacy" of the QBR statistic. After being all in favor of it today.

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Drake Maye is better right now and will be going forward. So is Daniels and so is Nix. All 3 will be better pros going forward.

Caleb as usual, was not particularly impressive. 70 Yards on 25 pass attempts at one point in late 3rd early 4th.

His lone TD pass was based on the oft maligned DJ Moore breaking loose on a screen pass for 35 yards.

Their defense and special teams spotted him a 14 point lead early in the game.

Less than 150 yards on 29 pass attempts is also rather putrid to say the least

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That Willis fumble was a thing of beauty. Reminded me of J.Fields in his prime of fumbling the ball away.

Williams simply tries to find an open receiver on his sacks and doesn't turn it over very often. BORING!

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This is a blatant lie.

Here you are citing only QBR:



Here you are citing QBR and two other categories that Caleb actually beat Willis in:



And here you are citing QBR, and only QBR, again:



And for good measure, and because I know you're an autistic weasel if nothing else, here you are quoting Caleb's QBR for a single game:



So yes, you have relied solely on QBR as a means to bash Caleb Williams, but now when QBR is in contradiction with your assertion that Malik Willis, in a loss, "outplayed" Caleb Williams, you pretend it's merely one of MANY stats you use.

Just admit that your hatred of Caleb Williams for taking Justin Fields away from you rattled your cage a little too much and you said something verifiably false about yesterday's game. Not even Nardi is going to come in on a white stallion to rescue you from this one. Take the L

I guess whenever you cannot "fixate" on QBR it becomes a "deeply flawed" statistic once again huh Hartgrove ?

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Only Daniels will be better barring injury. Nix and Maye may be equal to Williams. Nix should be way ahead given his age. He's less than a year younger than Fields.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Nice try, weasel, but everyone can see how much you loved QBR when it said Caleb Williams performed poorly. Now you want to pretend everyone beating you over the head with it is a hypocrite.

You're a little bitch, even a man can admit when he was wrong.

Holy Hypocrisy Batman! He'd have blamed the Bears O-Line or coaches had a similar thing occurred with Generational Caleb

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LTG, did Malik Willis outperform Caleb Williams, despite any difference in their respective QBRs for the game?

There is nothing "Manly' about your feminine ass. Make sure to take your estrogen pills too tonight you panty wearing motherfucker.

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You don't take being embarrassed very well.

But really, did Malik Willis outplay Caleb Williams contrary to the difference in their respective QBRs?

Let me say this again. There is absolutely nothing "Manly" about a feminine motherfucker like you. Take your estrogen pills and grab your dildo and lace for the "show" that you will be providing tonight for your "partner" bitch motherfucker.

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When you come down from your autistic rage:

Contrary to the near-100% difference in their QBRs from yesterday, did Malik Willis outperform Caleb Williams? It's a fairly simple question.

There is nothing "manly" about a weirdo such as you. You are a little bitch who whines to moderators about guys "mistreating" you on a message board with about 20 people on it. Which again says all that needs to be said about you. Hiding out in Effingham and pretending to be tough on the internet doesn't make a soft sack of shit like you tough. When a person knows what "smoke" happens to be, they don't have to play pretend on the internet.

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What does shaking people down at the Millennium Park Docks have to do with whether Malik Willis outperformed Caleb Williams yesterday despite Caleb's superior QBR, Radio? Does QBR not matter when evaluating QB performance like you said it did?

Apparently it has something to do with a 4% difference in completion percentage?

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What did your reporting of other posters have to do with your self perceived status as one of CFMB'S "Manly Men"?

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Got to get up pretty early to pull a fast one on Peep Show don't ya?

Peep Show is another of the whiny guys around here who is all up with the pile on bullshit til it goes another way for him.

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The Packers outscored the Bears 22-10 while their backup QB was in the game, but "shhhh" you just better not say that he outplayed the Bears starting QB.

Is it any wonder why the Hawgs, FavreFan, Zippys of the world push you dude's wigs in year after year with what they bring to the table about this?

When guy's like Juiced ascends to the leading voice on Bears football you know you're fucking screwed.

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But did Malik Willis outperform Caleb Williams contrary to the discrepancy in their QBRs for that game?

Hey stupid. You already admitted that you don't believe in QBR as an accurate metric. So you might want to use something else. The stalking routine and Derangement about what I have previously said doesn't change this.

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I only watched the national games this year (and not even Thanksgiving Day as I was invited to a friend's home for lunch), so I will stipulate that I don't have an opinion directly on Williams. But I will point out that after a year and a quarter of looking like Akili Smith and media discussions about whether they could trade him at the deadline for a 3rd round pick, Bryce Young came back from his benching and played well in his last five games.

So now each of you can choose to passionately explain why Williams does or doesn't deserve a second year before being declared a bust at the level of which Bryce Young was considered one at the end of his first year.

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So I'm right that QBR is a flawed metric by which to judge and compare QB performance, and your previous uses of it to bash Caleb have been erroneous?

It's either accurate and Caleb has sucked but was better than Malik Willis, or it is flawed and we should judge QB performance on other things. You can't have both.

Hey stupid. You claimed that Caleb played better based upon a metric which you have previously stated to not believe in. Either you are stupid. deranged, or mentally ill.

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Either QBR is accurate or it's not. You've bashed Caleb based solely on QBR numerous times. It's time to decide whether judging a QB based on it is or is not erroneous. If it is accurate then Williams outperformed Willis by a wide margin. You decide.

Hey stupid..You are basing your assessment of Caleb's performance on a metric tool which you previously claimed you did not support Either you are stupid, deranged, or mentally ill.

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Why was Caleb's QBR so much higher than that of Malik Willis yesterday, if QBR is so accurate?

Why are you hypocritically arguing in favor of QBR all of a sudden?

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I'm fine with QBR being an inaccurate measure of QB performance. You're the one who has argued numerous times that Caleb Williams is bad based solely on QBR. But now you're arguing that Malik Willis outperformed Caleb Williams yesterday despite Caleb posting a much better QBR. I'm asking why you changed your tune so suddenly on QBR being an accurate summation of a QB's production?

No Greater Lie Has Ever Been Told. You've just spent 5 hrs arguing to the contrary Hartgrove.

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If it were merely about QBR then he'd get a pass from me regarding the fact that he sucks

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