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Before AI kills us all, they have killed coding.

"Learn to Code" Backfires Spectacularly as Comp-Sci Majors Suddenly Have Sky-High Unemployment

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It looks like the "learn to code" push is backfiring spectacularly for those who bought in.

As Newsweek reports, recent college graduates who majored in computer science are facing high unemployment rates alongside the increasing probability of being laid off or replaced by artificial intelligence if and when they do get hired.

In its latest labor market report, the New York Federal Reserve found that recent CS grads are dealing with a whopping 6.1 precent unemployment rate. Those who majored in computer engineering — which is similar, if not more specialized — are faring even worse, with 7.5 percent of recent graduates remaining jobless. Comparatively, the New York Fed found, per 2023 Census data and employment statistics, that recent grads overall have only a 5.8 percent unemployment rate.

While folks who majored in fields like anthropology and physics fared even worse, with unemployment rates of 9.4 and 7.8 percent respectively, computer engineering had the third-highest rate of unemployment on the New York Fed's rankings, while computer science had the seventh — a precipitous fall from grace for a major once considered an iron-clad ticket to high earnings and job security.

(Those numbers, notably, are worse even than the outcomes for journalism grads. Despite being accurately advised that their chosen field is dying, recent grads who majored in journalism are only experiencing unemployment at a rate of 4.4 percent, per the NYFR's analysis.)

Bryan Driscoll, an HR and business consultant, told the magazine that the pipe dream "sold" to CS majors doesn't match up to the reality of the current job market that still "rewards pedigree over potential."

"We've overproduced degrees without addressing how exploitative and gatekept the tech hiring pipeline has become," Driscoll said. "Entry-level roles are vanishing, unpaid internships are still rampant, and companies are offshoring or automating the very jobs these grads trained for."

By automating, of course, the consultant means being replaced with AI as part of the second apparent phase of the tech industry's latest crash following major layoffs in recent years. Michael Ryan, another of Newsweek's experts, suggested that recent CS grads are, somehow, doing a crappier job than their AI competition.

"Every kid with a laptop thinks they're the next Zuckerberg," the finance guru behind MichaelRyanMoney.com told the magazine, "but most can't debug their way out of a paper bag."

"We created a gold rush mentality around coding right as the gold ran out," Ryan continued, referencing the "learn to code" craze of the late 2010s and early 2020s. "Companies are cutting engineering budgets by 40 percent while CS enrollment hits record highs. It's basic economics. Flood the market, crater the wages."

Where do they go from here? Aside from going back to school for something more lucrative, they could take the suggestion from one laid-off tech veteran, who last year told SFGATE that she had started selling her blood plasma to make ends meet.

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Where do they go from here? Aside from going back to school for something more lucrative, they could take the suggestion from one laid-off tech veteran, who last year told SFGATE that she had started selling her blood plasma to make ends meet.[/i]


“Learn to sell blood plasma” does not have the same ring to it.

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If I start a gofundme will you guys donate to it?

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“Can’t debug your way out of a paper bag” may be the nerdiest insult of all time.

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The world needs more Starbucks baristas.

Seriously, though, this story is indicative of a broader problem I have mentioned several times over the past couple of years. Our economy isn't generating enough jobs that require college degrees and pay a good wage. In absolute terms, the greatest number of new jobs that are being created come from the retail and health care sectors; these positions require little training and pay quite poorly. Young people have a bleak future ahead of them.

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So TM, we are down to, “Learn to make lattes” and “Learn to change bed pans”.

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The world needs more Starbucks baristas.

Seriously, though, this story is indicative of a broader problem I have mentioned several times over the past couple of years. Our economy isn't generating enough jobs that require college degrees and pay a good wage. In absolute terms, the new jobs that are being created are in the retail and health care sectors; they require little training and pay quite poorly. Young people have a bleak future ahead of them.

It's going to be a disaster and the only winners are going to be the people lucky enough to be able to live off their parents in their 20s and it won't be through any fault of their own. Eventually, we'll get the first version of UBI, which will be paying people to stay at home and watch their own kids instead of work. It's going to be rough for a while though.

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I don’t think any industry is safe outside of professional sports.

Have your kids do that.

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I don’t think any industry is safe outside of professional sports.

Have your kids do that.

My plan is to gift my kid $1.3 million so he can drive a taxi in NYC.

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Eventually, we'll get the first version of UBI, which will be paying people to stay at home and watch their own kids instead of work.


UBI will be a far greater disaster than a high unemployment rate or a lack of good paying jobs. Human beings need purpose. UBI will result in a nation of unmotivated dopes sitting around smoking weed and gambling on their smart phones. We're establishing the infrastructure for such right now.

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I don’t think any industry is safe outside of professional sports.

Have your kids do that.

My plan is to gift my kid $1.3 million so he can drive a taxi in NYC.



Just buy him a jalopy and he can help make Ari Emanuel and Travis Kalanick even richer.

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Eventually, we'll get the first version of UBI, which will be paying people to stay at home and watch their own kids instead of work.


UBI will be a far greater disaster than a high unemployment rate or a lack of good paying jobs. Human beings need purpose. UBI will result in a nation of unmotivated dopes sitting around smoking weed and gambling on their smart phones. We're establishing the infrastructure for such right now.

UBI doesn't stop people from having a purpose. It means that people who want to work but literally can't find a job are able to survive while they look for work.

UBI is a far different system than our current welfare system but also UBI isn't appropriate right now so that is why it seems to be as you describe.

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UBI doesn't stop people from having a purpose.


I would be very careful about the unintended consequences of such a program.

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I don’t think any industry is safe outside of professional sports.

Have your kids do that.

My plan is to gift my kid $1.3 million so he can drive a taxi in NYC.

Robot taxis will be more efficient.

There may be an outlet for low end drug dealing for those who can’t become professional athletes. $1.3m could help start up a boutique firm targeting those who don’t know how to budget their UBI.

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UBI doesn't stop people from having a purpose.


I would be very careful about the unintended consequences of such a program.

What about the unintended consequences of permanent unemployment with no safety net?

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I don’t think any industry is safe outside of professional sports.

Have your kids do that.

My plan is to gift my kid $1.3 million so he can drive a taxi in NYC.

Robot taxis will be more efficient.

There may be an outlet for low end drug dealing for those who can’t become professional athletes. $1.3m could help start up a boutique firm targeting those who don’t know how to budget their UBI.


I think you're on to something. How about if we pool a little money and have Brick develop an app for an unregulated online "bank" where loans are crowdsourced. We get people to sign up for the app which allows us access to their retirement accounts which we then use as venture capital. Get Jeff Bezos and Ari Emanuel to invest and government will allow us to operate without regulation. We're not a bank. We're an app!

In the alternative, Brick could lend his kid a Behemoth so he can make more as an UberXL driver.

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I would be very careful about the unintended consequences of such a program.

What about the unintended consequences of permanent unemployment with no safety net?



There are plenty of safety nets. That may be part of the problem.

If jobs are in such short supply why did the people using a Dementia Patient as a frontman just allow 20 million unemployed people into our country?

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I think you're on to something. How about if we pool a little money and have Brick develop an app for an unregulated online "bank" where loans are crowdsourced. We get people to sign up for the app which allows us access to their retirement accounts which we then use as venture capital. Get Jeff Bezos and Ari Emanuel to invest and government will allow us to operate without regulation. We're not a bank. We're an app!
Didn't you just describe paypal?

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I know we are all negative all the time about everything including historic Wrigley Field. But as is usually the case, unemployment levels and income are highly correlated with education level. So these charts show that having a college degree means a much higher chance of being employed.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/unemployment-rates-for-persons-25-years-and-older-by-educational-attainment.htm

And then if you want to argue, well lots of college grads work at Starbucks, then here is your income level depending on your educational attainment.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm

So if we really want to bitch and complain, which I know there is an entire America sucks crew around here for that, the bigger problem is the non college grads not getting a great high school education, while those attending universities are saddled with lots of debt. And look at that run on sentence followed by a sentence that might not be a sentence!

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There are plenty of safety nets. That may be part of the problem.
What safety nets? A person graduates from college and applies for jobs every day but cannot find a job for 2 years. What safety net do they have?

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If jobs are in such short supply why did the people using a Dementia Patient as a frontman just allow 20 million unemployed people into our country?
Do you think those 20 million are competing for the jobs we are talking about that require a college education?

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Microfinance for the unemployable is a growth sector. Arrow is pointing straight up.

Make usury great again.

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I know we are all negative all the time about everything including historic Wrigley Field. But as is usually the case, unemployment levels and income are highly correlated with education level. So these charts show that having a college degree means a much higher chance of being employed.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/unemployment-rates-for-persons-25-years-and-older-by-educational-attainment.htm

And then if you want to argue, well lots of college grads work at Starbucks, then here is your income level depending on your educational attainment.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm

So if we really want to bitch and complain, which I know there is an entire America sucks crew around here for that, the bigger problem is the non college grads not getting a great high school education, while those attending universities are saddled with lots of debt. And look at that run on sentence followed by a sentence that might not be a sentence!

Yes, college educated people have a better long term outlook than non-college educated people. What does that have to do with the topic here?

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Microfinance for the unemployable is a growth sector. Arrow is pointing straight up.

Make usury great again.


That might be a better sponsor for the Rate even if it is disingenuous.

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I think you're on to something. How about if we pool a little money and have Brick develop an app for an unregulated online "bank" where loans are crowdsourced. We get people to sign up for the app which allows us access to their retirement accounts which we then use as venture capital. Get Jeff Bezos and Ari Emanuel to invest and government will allow us to operate without regulation. We're not a bank. We're an app!
Didn't you just describe paypal?


:lol: Close but not exactly.

Seriously, I stopped using Paypal a long time ago. For awhile I was selling a bunch of stuff on ebay and I had never had any issues with any buyers. If there was a problem and the buyer emailed me, I took care of it. That didn't happen often anyway. But some asshole complained about the condition of an item I sold him and complained, not directly to me, but to ebay. I would have taken the item back and refunded him, no problem.

I went to withdraw funds from my Paypal account and there was a hold on the fairly substantial amount the guy had paid for the item. I went absolutely nuts. I started going back and forth with Paypal making the logical argument that I need one of two things: the money or the item. And I had neither. I decided I could no longer trust Paypal or ebay and I have used neither one since.

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There are plenty of safety nets. That may be part of the problem.
What safety nets? A person graduates from college and applies for jobs every day but cannot find a job for 2 years. What safety net do they have?


None. I guess that's why I stepped over 250 starving PhDs on my way to the office this morning.

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I know we are all negative all the time about everything including historic Wrigley Field. But as is usually the case, unemployment levels and income are highly correlated with education level. So these charts show that having a college degree means a much higher chance of being employed.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/unemployment-rates-for-persons-25-years-and-older-by-educational-attainment.htm

And then if you want to argue, well lots of college grads work at Starbucks, then here is your income level depending on your educational attainment.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm

So if we really want to bitch and complain, which I know there is an entire America sucks crew around here for that, the bigger problem is the non college grads not getting a great high school education, while those attending universities are saddled with lots of debt. And look at that run on sentence followed by a sentence that might not be a sentence!

Yes, college educated people have a better long term outlook than non-college educated people. What does that have to do with the topic here?


It has to do with the stuff posted by TM. I decline to get involved in your endless idiocy with Jorr.

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denisdman wrote:
I know we are all negative all the time about everything including historic Wrigley Field. But as is usually the case, unemployment levels and income are highly correlated with education level. So these charts show that having a college degree means a much higher chance of being employed.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/unemployment-rates-for-persons-25-years-and-older-by-educational-attainment.htm

And then if you want to argue, well lots of college grads work at Starbucks, then here is your income level depending on your educational attainment.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm

So if we really want to bitch and complain, which I know there is an entire America sucks crew around here for that, the bigger problem is the non college grads not getting a great high school education, while those attending universities are saddled with lots of debt. And look at that run on sentence followed by a sentence that might not be a sentence!

Yes, college educated people have a better long term outlook than non-college educated people. What does that have to do with the topic here?


It has to do with the stuff posted by TM. I decline to get involved in your endless idiocy with Jorr.


Leave him to his own proprietary brand of idiocy, Brick.

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denisdman wrote:
I know we are all negative all the time about everything including historic Wrigley Field. But as is usually the case, unemployment levels and income are highly correlated with education level. So these charts show that having a college degree means a much higher chance of being employed.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/unemployment-rates-for-persons-25-years-and-older-by-educational-attainment.htm

And then if you want to argue, well lots of college grads work at Starbucks, then here is your income level depending on your educational attainment.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm

So if we really want to bitch and complain, which I know there is an entire America sucks crew around here for that, the bigger problem is the non college grads not getting a great high school education, while those attending universities are saddled with lots of debt. And look at that run on sentence followed by a sentence that might not be a sentence!

Yes, college educated people have a better long term outlook than non-college educated people. What does that have to do with the topic here?


It has to do with the stuff posted by TM. I decline to get involved in your endless idiocy with Jorr.

I think you’re underselling how disruptive AI will be for everybody. It has the potential to be an Industrial Revolution type change, only on a much, much more accelerated scale. Historical stats are meaningless in that context.

There are almost zero jobs that efficient learning machines can’t do better than humans.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Brick wrote:
denisdman wrote:
I know we are all negative all the time about everything including historic Wrigley Field. But as is usually the case, unemployment levels and income are highly correlated with education level. So these charts show that having a college degree means a much higher chance of being employed.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/unemployment-rates-for-persons-25-years-and-older-by-educational-attainment.htm

And then if you want to argue, well lots of college grads work at Starbucks, then here is your income level depending on your educational attainment.

https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm

So if we really want to bitch and complain, which I know there is an entire America sucks crew around here for that, the bigger problem is the non college grads not getting a great high school education, while those attending universities are saddled with lots of debt. And look at that run on sentence followed by a sentence that might not be a sentence!

Yes, college educated people have a better long term outlook than non-college educated people. What does that have to do with the topic here?


It has to do with the stuff posted by TM. I decline to get involved in your endless idiocy with Jorr.

I think you’re underselling how disruptive AI will be for everybody. It has the potential to be an Industrial Revolution type change, only on a much, much more accelerated scale. Historical stats are meaningless in that context.

There are almost zero jobs that efficient learning machines can’t do better than humans.


Oh wait, now my post is relevant to this thread? lol

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