I’m not the thread police.

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There's no disputing the fact that educational attainment is currently the best predictor of income, life expectancy, political alignment, etc. But the point is that the economic distinction between college graduates and non-college graduates is likely to begin eroding due to our national economic trajectory. For example, fields like biomedical engineering and robotic science are exploding, but they are boutique professions, so high percentage growth in those areas doesn't actually add many new jobs to the economy and is leading to a situation in which American universities are/will begin overproducing graduates with those degrees (this situation has already played out, of course, for students in classic basic sciences, especially those with advanced degrees). Meanwhile, low-paying health care and retail are much larger economic sectors that are expanding more slowly but continue to significantly outpace absolute job growth in high-tech and management fields. And the Bureau of Labor Statistics expects this trend to continue for at leas the next several years. Moreover, the Trump-led disinvestment in federal and university research is going to have a massive ripple effect on the economy and will eviscerate the growth of high-paying jobs in several key areas, including (thankfully?) AI development, which Trump puzzlingly claims to be prioritizing. It will also depress hiring in lucrative "alt-academic" fields such as university administration (this is already happening, in fact), which has historically helped absorb advanced degree recipients in the physical and life sciences who are unable to find employment in academia or government/commercial labs.

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I don't even see the relevance to what TM posted. Yes, it's better to have a college degree than not but the good wage jobs from having a college degree are already struggling and likely to continue to become less likely to provide the life improving money upon graduation that it did before.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It's really coming, isn't it?

it will translate into a lot of bad sports thoughts

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No it is just one smart ass who not only drags out arguments for years but also decides who and what should be posted in a thread. It is why I rarely respond to or read his posts. It is possible he is an early form of message board AI.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

I think I'll survive without you responding to my posts.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Getting rid of the immigrants will increase wages for shit like CDL work and people will just figure it out the way they always have. Really the only bad thing about the slow death of the Bullshit Job is that its not happening faster.

That's bad, though. You start having fewer people with advanced education....that can't be good.

Look, I know half of the spinless liberal arts professors made everyone hate them with their bullshit about oppressive Ice People people who won't capitalize the word "black." And those same people aren't there to gladly learn and gladly teach and ignore that "From the river to the sea" is at the very least gonna piss people off. And they are not interested in truthful dialogue, but instead pushing the omni-cause. And if you challenge them, they'll attack you with mob tactics, or when you have them logically pinned to the wall, they'll hide behind the banner of anarchy. They're the Boomers of academia: selfish pigs who grab their endorphins and fuck everything else. I DESPISE THESE PEOPLE.

That sh*t needs to be reformed. But celebrating and hastening the demise of people who can document that they can think is not a good thing, especially now with AI.

Of course, if you step over them, they'll criticize you for your hegemonic gait, and then wonder why everyone despises them.

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Self driving trucks are coming

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Aside from a few airport trams we don’t even have self driving trains, which is a technology that has existed for quite some time but still eludes adoption. If you’re 22 years old & get your CDL tomorrow you’ll be retired by the time it’s under any threat from technological obsolescence.

The much bigger threat to those jobs viability it the Biden Administration importing the entire country of Somalia, gifting them free CDL’s and then unleashing them on our roads. I sense that wrong is on the verge of being righted though.

Yeah but in the meantime Trump in the oval office recently pressed for really nice trade schools everywhere to get smart people doing the things they can do best for big money. He was very polite and relayed how a person having an ability to disassemble and reassemble a motor are actually very smart.

It may take a while to undo the boomers "dream" that everyone must attend college. Also, it might be good to realize the carpenters, plumbers, electricians and auto techs are backwards ass shop class dopes from past memories. The are not all in pick ups and on Harleys with wife beaters on.

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Elections have consequences.

I think you should go to college no matter what job you do. It’s good for the country. Education is an end in and of itself.

I'm sure we can trust the Silicon Valley oligarchs and their demented "thought leader", Curtis Yarvin, to chart the path to a better future. They've had such a positive impact on society so far!

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They don’t have 1% of the influence we think they do.

The impending destruction of academia is a major goal of Yarvin, Thiel, Musk--and their minion, J.D. Vance.

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I think you are right (if the students can do the work and you aren't saddled with debt)

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No

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

The best thing we can do for academia right now today is cut its taxpayer funding by anywhere between fifty and a hundred percent. What nobody seems to realize is that the people out to hurt academia are giving it a massive dose of medicine that higher education sorely needs.

The question is can it build back better. I don’t know. I have faith—the awakening I’ve seen across our civilization in the last six months has exceeded my wildest dreams.

I wasn't asking whether or not you agree with Yarvin's "Butterfly Revolution"; my assumption is that you do. I am simply pointing out that it is being carried out point by point. As for myself, I will fight what's coming to the death.

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No you won’t.

Probably not.

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What? People on they phones

they ain't no awakening

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government

Ginseng distribution

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Jizz moppers.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

For long haul interstate moves, they are already here in Texas and soon to come across I-10 from Dallas to Phoenix and eventually to the Western edge of Atlanta. Pilot truck stops are investing in specialized refueling stations just for autonomous trucks. And government and the automated trucking providers are in agreement on advanced safety inspection processes (mostly using retired cops to start) to get every vehicle fully inspected daily at their terminals.

But urban traffic self driving trucks are probably a generation away because the collision avoidance protocols are exponentially more difficult and really are not profitable. The companies involved would rather invest their money into researching long-haul driving through bad weather.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

Farve Fan

Oh...sorry....I thought this was a word-association game.

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These are bullshit. They are basically remote controlled on what amounts to a closed course with the amount of pilot cars the escorts tehy have. I remember one of these firm touted their thousandth safe mile…I mean OK that’s what a long haul driver does in less than two shifts.

It’s just a scheme to extract investor dollars. Vaporware.

Again, when we have more automated than human controlled trains we can start talking about cars, trucks, boats & aircraft.