I didnt see anything insulting

Killer, why are businesses ok to exploit the law but homeowners arent?

Is homeless pete taking resume's for the henchman gig still?

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rpb schedules a discussion with me about alcohol at a later time yesterday and now JORR is doing the same. Do we need to setup a google calendar?

By the way, your point on Ricketts buying the Cubs and then wanting to change everything is spot on. He's just as bad as the local people. He may be worse, since he used it to his advantage in negotiations with Cubbie Headquarters.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I agree.

hey JORR.... dude..... DUDE... do you really wanna go there with these people? i'm going to crack my ice-cold 40 of st ides to you and your noble, if not quixotic, pursuit.... but trust me, it's like x-men #280 / 1-8-7: pyrrhic victory =D

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My entire point, which I felt I've posted already, is not that he's exempt from whining (just winning). It's just that the things that he's whining about are actually able to be changed. Landmark BS, signage, parking, rooftops, etc. Every last thing can, and most likely will get changed. His whines are part of their overall campaign, including most likely, payoffs, clout, negotiations, and whatever else will work with the city. That's apparently how business is done. The end game is increasing revenue and modernizing the ballpark.

It's totally different when you move in next to the ballpark. As I've said, you don't move there expecting peace & quiet, just like moving into a house in an O'Hare flight path. You've chosen to move there, you didn't have to (I lived there for a few years). So no, I don't believe you get to bitch about the noise, traffic, & people. And even if you do bitch, what is your end game? The only solution to your complaint is to force the Cubs to move away. But then it's not exactly the Wrigleyville you chose to move into, is it?

And really? Playing off your board persona of knowing everyone and having experienced everything is considered "getting personal?" Then I'm offended by raccoons & missed layups!

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I think the end game is to have some control or say so over what is happening in a neighborhood where you are paying taxes. That's all. And that's really no different than what Ricketts is doing.

Anyway, I completely understand the Cubs fans (most of whom live far away) saying, "Who cares? Let Ricketts run his business! If it gives the Cubs billions to sign Cabrera, Pujols, and Hamilton, fuck the hotel, let Tommy build a seven story strip club and casino." I understand that fan perspective. But getting past the emotion, anyone with a brain has to know that's a moronic thought, and of course there are limitations on what any business can do. That's what's so strange about bernstein espousing the idea. It's about as meatballish as it gets.

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The Court will accord substantial deference to the government's immigration policies, particularly those that implicate matters of national security.

This was too much to type on my phone.

I think American society is less egalitarian than ever. Conservatives like to say America stands for equal opportunity, not equal results. But the opportunities aren't equal. The poor aren't poor because they are dumber, weaker, or lazier than the rich. We've set up a society that favors certain people over others. It wouldn't be surprising if the unfavored revolted. That's why the favored know not to let things get too bad for them. Revolutions generally occur where a large portion of the population is young and the outlook for their future bleak. We could get there. But people probably aren't going to be desperate enough to move when poverty means owning one car and a 32" television and getting by on a few hundred a week from the government.

I think the main reason that the middle class identifies with the rich more than the poor is because they don't really recognize where they fit in the big picture and they don't want to be counted among "the lesser". denisdman touched upon it with his post about how grade school kids gravitate toward the best athlete rather than the kid sitting in a wheelchair on the sidelines. Even in our own weakness we abhor the weaker.

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The Court will accord substantial deference to the government's immigration policies, particularly those that implicate matters of national security.

That's not strange at all.

Bernstein is a raging meatball.

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I'm not even speaking as a Cub fan. What is so egregious about what he wants to do? Put up signs INSIDE his ballpark? Build a hotel with parking? Make improvements to the stadium? I don't see how this hurts the neighborhood at all.

The only possible sticking point is the more night games angle. I understand the complaint, but again, you chose to move next door to a ballpark. Night games happen. You have to take the good with the bad. You always have the option to move if living next to a ballpark turns out to not be what you had hoped.

And how is this different than the O'Hare comparison? Do those residents get to have a say on whether or not the airport expands? Do they get to impose a limit on flight numbers?

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Are there residents affected by O'Hare to the extent that there are residents affected by Wrigley? We're talking about totally different levels of population density so as to make the whole thing irrelevant.

I don't think anyone cares if he builds a hotel or a parking garage. This is about jumbotrons and billboards, and it is egregious when you have agreements not to put them up and screen out the contracted rooftop partners, and when the addition of such takes Wrigley Field from a charming old ballpark where Baseball Is Better(TM) to an old place covered with the same ugly shit as new places.

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I think most baseball fans feel like Wrigley is a special place. That's why I'm surprised so many Cubs fans have been so vociferous in their feelings that Ricketts should just "fuck that place and move to the suburbs." But there's an underlying theme being sold by Cubs brass and that is that they can't compete unless... With the unless being pretty much that everyone give the Cubs whatever they want. The fact is, many Cubs fan have swallowed that idea hook, line, and sinker.

Just today there was an article in the Sun-Times about how the Jumbotron might affect the "ballhawks". Now, I give as much of a shit about those morons out there knocking each other down on Waveland as I do about Beth Murphy or BJB Realty. But the truth is they are a little part of what makes Wrigley Wrigley. I don't know when it stops being the place where Baseball is Better(TM) and I doubt Tom Ricketts does either. But that point is out there somewhere. And if you keep fucking with that ballpark, sooner or later you'll find it.

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The Court will accord substantial deference to the government's immigration policies, particularly those that implicate matters of national security.

Maybe, in high school my summer job was in Franklin Park off Green street and due to O'Hare expansion a whole neighborhood and businesses were taken via what I'm guessing was eminent domain. Not too sure the details but one summer there was a neighborhood and next summer empty houses.

They. Need. To. Break. That. Union.

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The Bulls haven't done anything wrong, and they're not going to do anything wrong.

What I'm also wondering as Alderman Bakery Boy keeps talking about public safety and the crowds as the issue not billboards (yeah right), is why are the bar owners (some of them also rooftop owners) not being drug over the coals on that issue as well as the Cubs? Admittedly I spent a good deal of my 20's being a drunken "CUBBIES!" asshat. But when I staggered to the train and peed in the alley at the end of the night, it wasn't Wrigley I was staggering from; it was Sluggers, or Murphy's.

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“How do you get to be president and you’re stupid?” Donald J Trump - 4/10/25
When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus. - Turkish Proverb

It was eerie driving through that part of Bensenville after they ran those people off. It was like a scene from a post-apocalyptic movie. You might see a few deer walking down one of the deserted streets. Nature takes back quickly when man walks away. There were a few diehards that hung on until the last minute, probably trying to cut a better deal. You'd see one house with a neatly trimmed lawn in the middle of a block with houses like the one pictured above.

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The Court will accord substantial deference to the government's immigration policies, particularly those that implicate matters of national security.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

JORR is now the (moderate) Progressive voice of the CSFMB.

Yet, Tall Midget will struggle to find a point of contention with him

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And another day goes by with no deal. The Cubs wanted to build a Hotel, but the neighborhood said that it was 20 feet too tall. The Cubs said they would build a parking garage & the neighborhood said no. It just goes on and on and on. For a successful rich guy, Tom Ricketts has been way too nice of a guy. He should have laid out his plan for the garage, hotel, billboards & renovation, & told the city that if they don't agree to his plan, he's moving the team. Maybe he should have let his Father negotiate for him.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

Have you ever SEEN Omaha?!?

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

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The Court will accord substantial deference to the government's immigration policies, particularly those that implicate matters of national security.

His success was being shot out of Joe Ricketts cock.

Lucky Sperm Club, nothing more

I wish I read this section more often. There are a few threads I would have liked to contribute to. Now you all have lost my wisdom.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.