Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
How old is Joe?
If/when the Cubs run is over...or possibly during it, if this crest lasts 10 years...he may just walk off into the sunset and open The Pink Flamingo. A Cubs WS Championship or two would be the cherry on top of anyone's career.
That's not likely though. Managers are hired to be fired. It seems ridiculous to say a guy (any guy, not specifically Joe Maddon) is great when you know it's a near certainty that at some point you're going to be calling for his head.
Well, doesn't it sort of go back to your point that there are right managers for right situations? I do think a manager can make a different in the right situation. I think the current situation with Maddon is a good one, at least for now, even if he doesn't make the huge difference that a lot of Cubs fans think. There could be an old, salty veteran group at some point that doesn't click with Maddon. At that point, his shelf life may run up, even if he is having a minimal impact.
The difference the manager makes is exaggerated both ways. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's basically how pro sports operates. Fans want results immediately and, if not, a manager is an easy scapegoat. It's a lot like politics. It's also a lot like politics in that most managers in pro sports are just recycled time and time again to different teams or different levels - college or pro.
I mean, Bill Belichick is universally regarded as the best coach in football... and there's no doubt he has done a great job with the Patriots, and may even be the best guy for that job. However, there's no question that he probably wouldn't be regarded by everyone as the best coach in football if he was with the Browns for the last 15 years.
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