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Beyond that, even if you think he is, do you really think his administration should be tormented in public, as CH suggested? Let's get a grip here.

Why are you so aghast that disgusting people like Stephen Miller and Sarah Sanders are being mocked and inconvenienced in public? Why do they deserve a safe space?


I couldn't disagree with you more. This line of thinking is so dangerous. I don't even know where to begin......

Oh good heavens me, people call Stephen Miller an asshole, how will the Republic survive?


Do you think that's all that's being called for here?

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Beyond that, even if you think he is, do you really think his administration should be tormented in public, as CH suggested? Let's get a grip here.

Why are you so aghast that disgusting people like Stephen Miller and Sarah Sanders are being mocked and inconvenienced in public? Why do they deserve a safe space?


Who gets to decide who is disgusting?

How about Miller's colleagues who glowingly compared him to the SS?

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He may be an asshole but you called him disgusting. And you want him publicly mocked because you disagree with him.

Yes I do. I don't think you should be able to hurt as many people as he does and then just walk out the door and go home to your family like some everyday office guy.

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Curious Hair wrote:
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Beyond that, even if you think he is, do you really think his administration should be tormented in public, as CH suggested? Let's get a grip here.

Why are you so aghast that disgusting people like Stephen Miller and Sarah Sanders are being mocked and inconvenienced in public? Why do they deserve a safe space?


Who gets to decide who is disgusting?

How about Miller's colleagues who glowingly compared him to the SS?



Do you consider that a valid comparison?

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The left is about at the Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity level of bad ideas. I used to respect the left for being principled and open minded, but now they are just as prone to name calling and closed mindedness as the right. I suspect it was always that way, but it is more noticeable now.

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He may be an asshole but you called him disgusting. And you want him publicly mocked because you disagree with him.

Yes I do. I don't think you should be able to hurt as many people as he does and then just walk out the door and go home to your family like some everyday office guy.


Do you think Sarah Sanders has hurt more people than George Bush or Barack Obama?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
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Beyond that, even if you think he is, do you really think his administration should be tormented in public, as CH suggested? Let's get a grip here.

Why are you so aghast that disgusting people like Stephen Miller and Sarah Sanders are being mocked and inconvenienced in public? Why do they deserve a safe space?


Who gets to decide who is disgusting?

How about Miller's colleagues who glowingly compared him to the SS?



Do you consider that a valid comparison?

Well, no, because technically they said "Waffen SS" and Miller just sits at a desk.

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The left is about at the Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity level of bad ideas. I used to respect the left for being principled and open minded, but now they are just as prone to name calling and closed mindedness as the right. I suspect it was always that way, but it is more noticeable now.

Let me guess: if we're not careful, we'll drive even more people to Trump!!

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Curious Hair wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Beyond that, even if you think he is, do you really think his administration should be tormented in public, as CH suggested? Let's get a grip here.

Why are you so aghast that disgusting people like Stephen Miller and Sarah Sanders are being mocked and inconvenienced in public? Why do they deserve a safe space?


Who gets to decide who is disgusting?

How about Miller's colleagues who glowingly compared him to the SS?



Do you consider that a valid comparison?

Well, no, because technically they said "Waffen SS" and Miller just sits at a desk.



I generally wait until someone conducts a genocide before I compare them to Nazis.

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I generally wait until someone conducts a genocide before I compare them to Nazis.


Yes, let's wait until that happens. Great idea.

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I generally wait until someone conducts a genocide before I compare them to Nazis.


By then it's too late.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
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Beyond that, even if you think he is, do you really think his administration should be tormented in public, as CH suggested? Let's get a grip here.

Why are you so aghast that disgusting people like Stephen Miller and Sarah Sanders are being mocked and inconvenienced in public? Why do they deserve a safe space?


Who gets to decide who is disgusting?

Everyone, obviously.

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Curious Hair wrote:
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Beyond that, even if you think he is, do you really think his administration should be tormented in public, as CH suggested? Let's get a grip here.

Why are you so aghast that disgusting people like Stephen Miller and Sarah Sanders are being mocked and inconvenienced in public? Why do they deserve a safe space?



You know who did shit like that? Nazis,Fascists and those folks.

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I commend JoRR and Leash for defending the curvaceous Sarah Huckabee Sanders' right to chow down on some chicken tenders without being interrupted, but I think we've made progress as a nation if we're judging her on the content of her character and not her skin color.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:05 pm 
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Curious Hair wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Beyond that, even if you think he is, do you really think his administration should be tormented in public, as CH suggested? Let's get a grip here.

Why are you so aghast that disgusting people like Stephen Miller and Sarah Sanders are being mocked and inconvenienced in public? Why do they deserve a safe space?



You know who did shit like that? Nazis,Fascists and those folks.

Projection of their own sins was also big with the Nazis.


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denisdman wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
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Beyond that, even if you think he is, do you really think his administration should be tormented in public, as CH suggested? Let's get a grip here.

Why are you so aghast that disgusting people like Stephen Miller and Sarah Sanders are being mocked and inconvenienced in public? Why do they deserve a safe space?


I couldn't disagree with you more. This line of thinking is so dangerous. I don't even know where to begin......

Oh good heavens me, people call Stephen Miller an asshole, how will the Republic survive?


He may be an asshole but you called him disgusting. And you want him publicly mocked because you disagree with him.

Stephen Miller is a one-of-kind creature. The dude's entire existence is based on trolling.

He deserves everything and anything he receives.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:07 pm 
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I commend JoRR and Leash for defending the curvaceous Sarah Huckabee Sanders' right to chow down on some chicken tenders without being interrupted, but I think we've made progress as a nation if we're judging her on the content of her character and not her skin color.

I don't think Sarah should have been told to leave, and I don't think the gays should have been told they can't have a wedding cake. Sadly the Right feels differently about the latter. It has already been determined that you don't get to decide who sits at the lunch counter, unless you are a Trumper.


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I generally wait until someone conducts a genocide before I compare them to Nazis.


Yes, let's wait until that happens. Great idea.



How do I know you're not a Nazi?

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Stephen Miller is a one-of-kind creature. The dude's entire existence is based on trolling.


The second sentence could be said about several here and thousands on Twitter which kind of puts lie to the first.

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I commend JoRR and Leash for defending the curvaceous Sarah Huckabee Sanders' right to chow down on some chicken tenders without being interrupted, but I think we've made progress as a nation if we're judging her on the content of her character and not her skin color.

I don't think Sarah should have been told to leave, and I don't think the gays should have been told they can't have a wedding cake. Sadly the Right feels differently about the latter. It has already been determined that you don't get to decide who sits at the lunch counter, unless you are a Trumper.


You know, if you just stated your opinions like you did here, we could probably have more productive conversations. Don't take this as an insult because it's not. You do seem to have thoughts... you should share them more instead of calling us names.

My question to you would be, if you disagree with both, why aren't you calling out the Left for the Red Hen thing? Maybe you are, but I just haven't seen it.

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I generally wait until someone conducts a genocide before I compare them to Nazis.


By then it's too late.


And Terry's Peeps starring as Director Lamar Burgess.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Stephen Miller is a one-of-kind creature. The dude's entire existence is based on trolling.


The second sentence could be said about several here and thousands on Twitter which kind of puts lie to the first.


There have been despicable people in politics since the beginning of time. And what CH initially described and what Maxine Waters describes is more than just walking up to them in public and politely telling them you disagree. It was a call to ostracize and humiliate them in mobs. How can we possibly think that is okay? If someone in the administration did something illegal, then they should be tried for that. But nothing Trump or any of his cabinet members have done are illegal (at least in this context - I'm sure they've done illegal things in their lives). The children immigrant thing is a policy disagreement, no matter how much everyone wants to act like it's about "more than politics." Again, who gets to decide what is about more than politics? A mob of angry Twitter users? We have to be consistent with this shit. Barack Obama killed more innocent people in a day than Sarah Huckabee ever will, but he should still never be the subject of public taunting, threats, or violence.

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Trump's whole short lived political career has been about division.

I don't think he should be caught off guard when there is push back against his administration from the American people.

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I commend JoRR and Leash for defending the curvaceous Sarah Huckabee Sanders' right to chow down on some chicken tenders without being interrupted, but I think we've made progress as a nation if we're judging her on the content of her character and not her skin color.

I don't think Sarah should have been told to leave, and I don't think the gays should have been told they can't have a wedding cake. Sadly the Right feels differently about the latter. It has already been determined that you don't get to decide who sits at the lunch counter, unless you are a Trumper.


You know, if you just stated your opinions like you did here, we could probably have more productive conversations. Don't take this as an insult because it's not. You do seem to have thoughts... you should share them more instead of calling us names.

My question to you would be, if you disagree with both, why aren't you calling out the Left for the Red Hen thing? Maybe you are, but I just haven't seen it.

Honestly because it's hilarious to me watching the Right lose their heads over Sarah being asked to leave, when the Red Hen owner specifically said she did it on principle. That's the exact argument that the gay cake shop was using and was shoved down our throats as a nation that they shouldn't have to bend their principles. Now that the shoe is on the other foot they are losing their minds (and violating the law with their tweets)

Sarah should have been allowed to eat. Give her dirty looks all you want, but she should have not have been tossed.


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Trump's whole short lived political career has been about division.


Can you expound on that?

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Stephen Miller is a one-of-kind creature. The dude's entire existence is based on trolling.


The second sentence could be said about several here and thousands on Twitter which kind of puts lie to the first.


There have been despicable people in politics since the beginning of time. And what CH initially described and what Maxine Waters describes is more than just walking up to them in public and politely telling them you disagree. It was a call to ostracize and humiliate them in mobs. How can we possibly think that is okay? If someone in the administration did something illegal, then they should be tried for that. But nothing Trump or any of his cabinet members have done are illegal (at least in this context - I'm sure they've done illegal things in their lives). The children immigrant thing is a policy disagreement, no matter how much everyone wants to act like it's about "more than politics." Again, who gets to decide what is about more than politics? A mob of angry Twitter users? We have to be consistent with this shit. Barack Obama killed more innocent people in a day than Sarah Huckabee ever will, but he should still never be the subject of public taunting, threats, or violence.


Weren't there prostestors and angry internet mobs trolling every available restaurant review they could find for Red Hen?

The climate is unhealthy. Our CiC does not do anything to help calm the fervor down.

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Trump's whole short lived political career has been about division.

I don't think he should be caught off guard when there is push back against his administration from the American people.


There is nothing wrong with push back in the right way. I remember when people displayed their weapons at Obama rallies (which I think was dumb), and they were lampooned for it. I'm not aware that they made any specific threats.

Also, I'm not saying there is no time to ever go beyond the system to enact change (obviously, that's how we were founded), but if the reason is because the president is a blowhard, we've lost a sense for what difficult times are like. The original civil war was about economics and slavery. I guess the second will be because the president called someone a dumb-dumb on Twitter after we ignored all the bad stuff done by the prior president because he was a nice guy.

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They are creating a playbook now that will be used the next time a Democrat comes to power. If we don't take elections seriously then the last vestige of democracy has fallen apart. The printing press ended the age of kings. Not sure what will happen in the era of the Internet and Social Media. Seems like those who control the means of production (Google and Facebook) will truly rule.

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