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Jaw Breaker

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:31 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

ERA for relievers is a tricky stat at best

Yeah, I always thought one of Murph's best ideas (if in fact he came up with it) was having a modified ERA where the fault for a run scored was more equitably divided between the pitcher who put him on and the pitcher who allowed him to score. For example:

Pitcher allows a single and gets taken out. Reliever allows him to score. The first pitcher gets charged with 0.25 earned run and the reliever 0.75.

An inherited man on second would be 0.50/0.50 and so forth.

The other thing that skews reliever ERA is that they often come in with one or two outs. If someone comes in with two outs, it's relatively easy to get out of the inning with no runs charged to them.

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Ogie Oglethorpe

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:35 am

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

ERA for relievers is a tricky stat at best, but if IMU wants to bump his "THEO WON THE Q TRADE" thread because Jose was able to pitch two clean innings before the wheels fell off, then he can go right ahead and do so. Funny how smacking down the truth in front of a self procliamed baseball executive is dismissed as having a bad attitude.

To Chet's point, Ross's mistake was having Q out of the bullpen. Since coming out of the pen is not foreign to Chatwood over the last couple of seasons, he may have been better suited for that role. Let Q start and cover 9 outs or throw 40 pitches, then bring in Chatwood.

Of course, none of that matters I guess because neither Chatwood nor Q got any run support!

They were playing the fucking Tigers. Out of the bullpen or starting shouldn't matter there.

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City of Fools

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:35 am

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:

Frank, I think Ross was looking ahead to the first round of the playoffs, when Q will have to come out of the bullpen or not be on the roster. Get him some practice warming up mid game, etc. Also less stress than starting.

The problem was that he left him in for another inning. He looked good in his first inning. I went to bed after that so I didn't see what happened in the inning where he got knocked out.

I think Q starts one of the DH games in Cincinnati on Saturday, and Chatwood either goes back to the DL or goes into long relief.

why can't Q start in the playoffs?

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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:42 am

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City of Fools wrote:

Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:

why can't Q start in the playoffs?

First round is a 3 game series. Darvish, Hendricks, Lester. You probably keep Mills to piggyback with Lester, and have Quintana available to pitch long relief in one of the first two games.

In later rounds, I'd expect Quintana to start depending on how the off days line up. If they go to a bubble with 7 games in 8 days, then he will definitely start.

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conns7901

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:02 pm

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Dan and Julie are furious the Cubs are playing tonight.

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conns7901 wrote:

Not over yet.

Yes it is.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:24 pm

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Heyward is sitting out

The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:25 pm

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Lester looking rickety already .

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:29 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

Lester looking rickety already .

Lesbian?

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:31 pm

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IMU wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

"Very good" is not the correct phrase to use when the pitcher leaves the game with 2 on and nobody out after giving up a run.

Then again when it comes to baseball, especially Chicago baseball, you rarely are correct.

You really do have an attitude problem Frank.

I wouldn’t really call it a problem to point out the Cubs suck

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:32 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Heyward is sitting out

The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point

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312player

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:37 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Heyward is sitting out

The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point

4 more after this year I believe

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:38 pm

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312player wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Heyward is sitting out

The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point

4 more after this year I believe

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conns7901

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:38 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Heyward is sitting out

The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point

Three more after this one.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

Not over yet.

Yes it is.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:40 pm

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conns7901 wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Heyward is sitting out

The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point

Three more after this one.

Brutal

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:47 pm

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312player wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Heyward is sitting out

The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point

Three more after this one.

Brutal

Any chance the cops can kill one a day for the next 3 years ?

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pittmike

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:11 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

312player wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Heyward is sitting out

The more powerful statement would be to void the contract by this evil capitalist system that enables the racism

Can’t have that many years left on it at this point

Three more after this one.

Brutal

Any chance the cops can kill one a day for the next 3 years ?

They could taze then shoot Heyward and leave him paralyzed?

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Jaw Breaker

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:22 pm

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Wick seems to be regressing.

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Jbi11s

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:24 pm

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This is absolutely embarrassing.

The bullpen is a fucking dumpster fire.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:36 pm

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Great games today for both Chicago teams

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pittmike

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:39 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Great games today for both Chicago teams

Yup.

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Ogie Oglethorpe

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:11 pm

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It seems the Cubs ultimately decided not to play today

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Jaw Breaker

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:15 pm

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Stick a fork in Kimbrel.

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pittmike

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:22 pm

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Jaw Breaker wrote:

Stick a fork in Kimbrel.

Another great signing brought to you by the chosen one Theo.

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Jaw Breaker

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:24 pm

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When I posted that he had walked the first batter and went 3-0 on the next. Of course he turned it around and got out of it. Although it’s garbage time.

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Jaw Breaker

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:31 pm

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Tigers being Tigers.

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conns7901

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:32 pm

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Happ not tagging on Rizzo's 418 foot flyout is gonna end this game for them.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

Not over yet.

Yes it is.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:40 pm

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IMU wrote:

The same Tigers pitching staff that the White Sox have gotten to abuse for 7 games so far in order to inflate their own lineup's stats.

Or the Sox are good and the Cubs arent.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Cubs @ Tigers : 8/24 - 8/26

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

IMU wrote:

The same Tigers pitching staff that the White Sox have gotten to abuse for 7 games so far in order to inflate their own lineup's stats.

Or the Sox are good and the Cubs arent.

Sure looks that way.

Ship passing in the night headed different directions over the course of the next few years.

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Ogie Oglethorpe

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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:25 pm

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It looks like the Cubs just got hot the first week or two of the season and now reality has set-in. Losing a series to the Tigers... :lol:

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badrogue17

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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:26 pm

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pittmike wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

Stick a fork in Kimbrel.

Another great signing brought to you by the chosen one Theo.

Who would you have signed to close games for them last year Mike?

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