Recent history says it's an awful idea unless you're already a good team.

You can add, Young, Lance, and Fields to this list.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/stor ... uarterback

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Pace traded up for everybody.

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Peter King's thoughts on that...

"Suppose GM Ryan Poles traded the top pick down one spot to Washington (which would take Caleb Williams), and got the second pick, a second-round pick and a 2025 first-round pick in return," he wrote. "Then suppose Poles traded the second pick to Atlanta at eight, and the Falcons picked one of the other quarterbacks. In return, Chicago gets the eighth pick, Atlanta's second-round pick, and first- and second-round picks next year.

"For moving down seven picks in the first round, the Bears could end up with nine picks in the first two rounds of the next two drafts. Instant infrastructure."

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Why stop there?

Trade those two picks in perpetuity until the Bears have every first rounder in 2037.

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He was wrong every time. That's impressive.

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It's deliciously ironic that fans of a franchise notoriously known for QB ineptitude want the team to pass on all top QB prospects the chance to draft guys who aren't quarterbacks. People cite the Cowboys' Walker trade as a model but they already had their QB before making the move. You do a Walker trade today and you're gonna have the talented-everywhere-but-QB 2023 Jets instead of the 90s Cowboys.

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Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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With the number of times Pace would trade picks on draft day, I thought he would eventually turn the mad dream of amassing every pick in the 6th round into a reality.

Pace is at the combine parking lot right now jotting down the license plate number of every Camry and cross-checking that info against his prospect list

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Ben Simmons is a liability: check
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Bears currently hold 5 picks in the top 2 rounds of the upcoming drafts before making any trades -including moving Fields or the 9th pick. That’s more than enough to find some talent.



I’d rather take a chance on one of two potentially generational type talents at the most important position in sports in Maye or Williams.


But that’s me, we’ll see how this plays out. I think we’ll know within the next 2 weeks whether Justin is staying or that 1st pick is staying.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Throw in Sam Howell for Bagent and at least 1 more 1st round pick from Washington. And you want 2026 1st round picks over 2025, if you can only get one or the other.

I think we'll have clarity by Saturday. It's possible that Poles will tell us tomorrow, but I suspect he wants to talk to the guys first.

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Scoff if you must, but that would be pretty fucking cool in 2037.

Yeah but then they'd trade all 32 picks because @giveFields10morechances2proveHe'saverage would say "imagine the haul if we..."

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
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Poles has taken the long build approach to roster construction thus far, and he could surely pick up tons of picks if he decides to stick with Fields, but if you have Willams and Maye rated similarly on your board it makes sense to fleece Washington for a second and first next year, let them take the hometown guy Willams and then take Maye. This move likely gets you three starters for the price of one pick, you also upgrade your roster with the 2nd/3rd you get when you move Fields.

The number #9 pick will also give you a chance to pick up a pick or two, especially if a QB slides, but if one of the top WR's are there it would be tempting to take Odunze or Nabors.

The odds say 1 of Williams/Maye will suck. If you pass on the franchise QB you are fired, regardless of the haul you get.

I think Daniels is the guy who is more likely to be bad or injured.

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I think it is more likely none of the three are saviors. Kind of like the Fields draft.

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This gets back into the ‘bust’ conversation and how guys perform relative to expectations.

Williams would be a massive bust if he flames out. This isn’t the case where he’ll go 1/1 simply because he’s a QB and that’s where you draft QBs. Aside from some late praise for MHJ, he’s been penciled in as the best player in CFB/future top pick for a couple years now.

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MHJ may be the most can't miss prospect but teams don't win Super Bowls because they have the best WR in the game.

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that is pretty much the bottom line here for me. I really would like the Bears to get MHJ. But they cannot afford to do that. They have to take a big swing at the most important position.

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Wide receivers may be a bigger crapshoot than quarterbacks.

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Best Chicago WR draft picks since 2000
Alshon Jeffery
Marty Booker


Is that the list? That's horrible if so. Cincinnati has had the following in like the past ten years.

Aj Green
TJ Housmanwhatever
Chad Johnson
Higgins
Boyd
Chase

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I'm in the minority, but I think the gap between C-Will and Maye is bigger than the gap between MHJ and the 5th best receiver in this draft.

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Was Marcus Robinson drafted?

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I think so. Our RB list is decent to good as well but not elite. Have we ever drafted a future hall of famer on offense in the past 25 or so years? Assuming Olin is the closest but I'm sure I'm missing a lot.

RB list

Anthony Thomas
Forte
Benson
Montgomery

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Over the past 10 drafts a franchise QB (assuming you're sold on Trevor Lawrence as such) has been drafted in seven out of the ten drafts.

I'm fine with taking a QB in 2024 if that's the play, but acting like if the Bears don't take a QB in 2024 at the expense of having 40 first and second round picks over the next three years absolutely excludes them from drafting a franchise QB in one of those future drafts just doesn't comport with history.

There's financials involved. If you punt on this class you would be making a long-term commitment to Fields. This isn't the Pickett draft.

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Who’s suggesting the Bears are only allowed to draft a QB 1/1 this year?

The point is the guy they’d be passing on. Cincy could’ve received a haul for Burrow and they’d have been dumb to do so. Same might be true for Jax, though last year wasn’t great.

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Joe Burrow's record so far: 29-22-1
Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's record while with the Bears: 29-21-0

Jake Browning/a QB other than Joe Burrow will start more games for the Cincinnati Bengals over the next 3 seasons than Joe Burrow will.


Joe Burrow is the Derrick Rose/Ja Morant of the NFL: great player whose body won't hold up over the short-medium-long term