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Too bad he’s basically a podcast now.


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Too bad he’s basically a podcast now.

Not many podcasters make $85million a year. July should take notice.

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Howard Stern talks about this by way of podcasts. When he was growing up he dreamed of being on the radio and busted his ass to get on the air anywhere. Now anyone can have a "radio show" - all you need is a microphone and an internet connection. If you are good you can make money doing it. Same goes for "journalists" like July. Work at your craft instead of complaining all the time and looking for a handout.


Podcasting is ridiculously easy to do but almost everyone is bad at it.

As for JORR's question as to why Julie can't be like Freddie deBoer, that's a very interesting comparison. I think back to my line about how Deadspin has colleagues but Barstool has fans. Julie has no independent thoughts that one can't get elsewhere; she let herself become such a lockstep media creature that she made herself replaceable. I'd argue that Senor did the same thing.

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Howard Stern talks about this by way of podcasts. When he was growing up he dreamed of being on the radio and busted his ass to get on the air anywhere. Now anyone can have a "radio show" - all you need is a microphone and an internet connection. If you are good you can make money doing it. Same goes for "journalists" like July. Work at your craft instead of complaining all the time and looking for a handout.


Podcasting is ridiculously easy to do but almost everyone is bad at it.

As for JORR's question as to why Julie can't be like Freddie deBoer, that's a very interesting comparison. I think back to my line about how Deadspin has colleagues but Barstool has fans. Julie has no independent thoughts that one can't get elsewhere; she let herself become such a lockstep media creature that she made herself replaceable. I'd argue that Senor did the same thing.


That is a good point on her and Dan. I you are everybody you are nobody.

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Seeing G/O Media sell what once we're really strong verticals for parts makes me so grateful to the Onion and GMG Unions, and how we learned to hang together. If you're in a newsroom, you need to unionize.


That helped you how?

And I’m starting to think the misspellings are intentional. How do you type “we’re” instead of were? That wouldn’t even be an autocorrect. You’d have to type the apostrophe.


There's a lot to discuss regarding the unionization of journalists in our current society. Writers of previous generations unionized or created guilds in opposition to those who controlled the means of production, i.e. the printing press. But a printing press is no longer necessary. Anyone is capable of creating their own means of production in the field of journalism and many have.

Which leads us to the second point, and that is that so many so-called journalists are resentful or jealous of those that have been able to do so. Julie apparently longs for the Monopoly Man to control media so that she can unionize in opposition to him.

In fact, if she really had the slightest ability or was capable of writing anything that anyone wanted to read, she could be as successful as Bari Weiss or Freddie deBoer and she wouldn't need to think about trying to unionize against the owners of a dying business model.

Howard Stern talks about this by way of podcasts. When he was growing up he dreamed of being on the radio and busted his ass to get on the air anywhere. Now anyone can have a "radio show" - all you need is a microphone and an internet connection. If you are good you can make money doing it. Same goes for "journalists" like July. Work at your craft instead of complaining all the time and looking for a handout.


That is Julie's craft. :D


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Tad Queasy wrote:
Franky T wrote:
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Seeing G/O Media sell what once we're really strong verticals for parts makes me so grateful to the Onion and GMG Unions, and how we learned to hang together. If you're in a newsroom, you need to unionize.


That helped you how?

And I’m starting to think the misspellings are intentional. How do you type “we’re” instead of were? That wouldn’t even be an autocorrect. You’d have to type the apostrophe.


There's a lot to discuss regarding the unionization of journalists in our current society. Writers of previous generations unionized or created guilds in opposition to those who controlled the means of production, i.e. the printing press. But a printing press is no longer necessary. Anyone is capable of creating their own means of production in the field of journalism and many have.

Which leads us to the second point, and that is that so many so-called journalists are resentful or jealous of those that have been able to do so. Julie apparently longs for the Monopoly Man to control media so that she can unionize in opposition to him.

In fact, if she really had the slightest ability or was capable of writing anything that anyone wanted to read, she could be as successful as Bari Weiss or Freddie deBoer and she wouldn't need to think about trying to unionize against the owners of a dying business model.

Howard Stern talks about this by way of podcasts. When he was growing up he dreamed of being on the radio and busted his ass to get on the air anywhere. Now anyone can have a "radio show" - all you need is a microphone and an internet connection. If you are good you can make money doing it. Same goes for "journalists" like July. Work at your craft instead of complaining all the time and looking for a handout.


That is Julie's craft. :D


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tad Queasy wrote:
Franky T wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Seeing G/O Media sell what once we're really strong verticals for parts makes me so grateful to the Onion and GMG Unions, and how we learned to hang together. If you're in a newsroom, you need to unionize.


That helped you how?

And I’m starting to think the misspellings are intentional. How do you type “we’re” instead of were? That wouldn’t even be an autocorrect. You’d have to type the apostrophe.


There's a lot to discuss regarding the unionization of journalists in our current society. Writers of previous generations unionized or created guilds in opposition to those who controlled the means of production, i.e. the printing press. But a printing press is no longer necessary. Anyone is capable of creating their own means of production in the field of journalism and many have.

Which leads us to the second point, and that is that so many so-called journalists are resentful or jealous of those that have been able to do so. Julie apparently longs for the Monopoly Man to control media so that she can unionize in opposition to him.

In fact, if she really had the slightest ability or was capable of writing anything that anyone wanted to read, she could be as successful as Bari Weiss or Freddie deBoer and she wouldn't need to think about trying to unionize against the owners of a dying business model.

Howard Stern talks about this by way of podcasts. When he was growing up he dreamed of being on the radio and busted his ass to get on the air anywhere. Now anyone can have a "radio show" - all you need is a microphone and an internet connection. If you are good you can make money doing it. Same goes for "journalists" like July. Work at your craft instead of complaining all the time and looking for a handout.


That is Julie's craft. :D


:lol:

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If you're an independent journalist who has gone through newsletter route, has it affected your ability to report? Do people still talk to you even though you're not attached to an outlet?


Just circling the drain at this point.

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If you're an independent journalist who has gone through newsletter route, has it affected your ability to report? Do people still talk to you even though you're not attached to an outlet?


Just circling the drain at this point.


Better get a lot of Draino.

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If you're an independent journalist who has gone through newsletter route, has it affected your ability to report? Do people still talk to you even though you're not attached to an outlet?


Just circling the drain at this point.

If she really wanted to know, she'd reach out privately to ask Eric Zorn, Charlie Meyerson, Kot & DeRogatis, or even John Kass. What she is actually doing here is promoting her own forthcoming newsletter.

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If you're an independent journalist who has gone through newsletter route, has it affected your ability to report? Do people still talk to you even though you're not attached to an outlet?


Just circling the drain at this point.

If she really wanted to know, she'd reach out privately to ask Eric Zorn, Charlie Meyerson, Kot & DeRogatis, or even John Kass. What she is actually doing here is promoting her own forthcoming newsletter.


I think we need a mult called Chat JDC. I could see you pulling that one off, bad grammar and all.

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If you're an independent journalist who has gone through newsletter route, has it affected your ability to report? Do people still talk to you even though you're not attached to an outlet?


Just circling the drain at this point.



Yeah, because the holding the title of Editor-in-Cheif [sic] of Deadspin opens a lot of doors.

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If you're an independent journalist who has gone through newsletter route, has it affected your ability to report? Do people still talk to you even though you're not attached to an outlet?


Just circling the drain at this point.



Yeah, because the holding the title of Editor-in-Cheif [sic] of Deadspin opens a lot of doors.


None of them wide enough for her to fit through.

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I would understand for a little while, as her husband, if she wanted to take a flight of fancy and quit practicing law to read scoreboard updates on the radio. At some point I 'd have to tell her that the dream is dead. Grow up and get back to your government attorney job.

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I would understand for a little while, as her husband, if she wanted to take a flight of fancy and quit practicing law to read scoreboard updates on the radio. At some point I 'd have to tell her that the dream is dead. Grow up and get back to your government attorney job.

are there many attorney jobs that let you work from home and not going into the office three days a week?

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I would understand for a little while, as her husband, if she wanted to take a flight of fancy and quit practicing law to read scoreboard updates on the radio. At some point I 'd have to tell her that the dream is dead. Grow up and get back to your government attorney job.

are there many attorney jobs that let you work from home and not going into the office three days a week?


yea, unfortunately pretty much all of them. Except the part of not going into the office 3 days a week. More like they go into the office 1x per month. Especially jobs like CTA attorney or working for the city. Some of those people make it downtown to their office maybe 3-4x per year.

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I would understand for a little while, as her husband, if she wanted to take a flight of fancy and quit practicing law to read scoreboard updates on the radio. At some point I 'd have to tell her that the dream is dead. Grow up and get back to your government attorney job.

are there many attorney jobs that let you work from home and not going into the office three days a week?


yea, unfortunately pretty much all of them. Except the part of not going into the office 3 days a week. More like they go into the office 1x per month. Especially jobs like CTA attorney or working for the city. Some of those people make it downtown to their office maybe 3-4x per year.

Then I’m shocked she’s not waddling right into the Bar Association to reinstate her license if that’s the case

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You know who has a bigger ego than lawyers? "Recovering lawyers."

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You know who has a bigger ego than lawyers? "Recovering lawyers."


Don't confuse the mediocrity of others for the ego of lawyers.

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Who's subscribing??

After a few weeks of "wtf am I going to do now?" I've decided I'm not all that keen on working for yet another outlet, and the opportunities are few and far between, anyway. So, like many of my more talented and successful peers, I'll be launching a newsletter in the coming days.
No idea what it'll be called, but I hope you'll consider subscribing!


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What ever will she do with the windfall she's sure to get from the two dozen or so subscribers?

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Is it that hard to go back to being lawyer who works on uncontested divorces?

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Hasn't she done this numerous times before? She wrote like two articles and then "couldn't even anymore" every time she did.

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Hasn't she done this numerous times before? She wrote like two articles and then "couldn't even anymore" every time she did.

With podcasts, yes, but I don't think she's done so with a newsletter.

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Hasn't she done this numerous times before? She wrote like two articles and then "couldn't even anymore" every time she did.

With podcasts, yes, but I don't think she's done so with a newsletter.

Well I'm sure she can't even soon with this new grift.

And of course, when it fails, it'll be because of ugh, men.

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Hasn't she done this numerous times before? She wrote like two articles and then "couldn't even anymore" every time she did.

With podcasts, yes, but I don't think she's done so with a newsletter.


There could be fun wagers made:

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O/U on Grammar/Spelling mistakes per article: 4.5

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Who's subscribing??

After a few weeks of "wtf am I going to do now?" I've decided I'm not all that keen on working for yet another outlet, and the opportunities are few and far between, anyway. So, like many of my more talented and successful peers, I'll be launching a newsletter in the coming days.
No idea what it'll be called, but I hope you'll consider subscribing!

"I'm launching a newsletter! I mean I don't have a launch date to give you, I don't know what it's going to be called, and I'm not too sure what it's going to be covering, so good luck to you or anyone else in finding it. See you soon!"

I'm glad Julie absorbed the important lessons from that time her employer folded and terminated everyone because they couldn't generate revenue from people finding and sharing their content after she proudly posted about not writing her articles with SEO in mind and choosing not to focus on hot topics of the day and disliking her bosses telling her to write attention grabbing headlines.


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Hasn't she done this numerous times before? She wrote like two articles and then "couldn't even anymore" every time she did.

With podcasts, yes, but I don't think she's done so with a newsletter.

Well I'm sure she can't even soon with this new grift.

And of course, when it fails, it'll be because of ugh, men.


Well, 47% of NFL fans are women but 100% of fans (all genders) will not be subscribing.

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Your ideas are (not) intriguing to me, and I (do not) wish to subscribe to your newsletter

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I'm guessing there are some, but I have to believe that most newsletters don't make the author a profit, they're just gauze on the wound to stop the hemorrhaging of cash from savings after a writer loses their job.

This is quickly shaping up to be another instance of Julie going off half-cocked with a media venture she envisions will become a viral success, doing nothing to actually make it a viral success, and then quickly losing interest and shutting it down. Haven't we already seen this play with her Patreon? That had a "newsletter" component that stopped being sent out real quick, as I recall.


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