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But either way it isnt something to argue about.



Agreed.


I had more of a problem with it for actual football reasons anyway, which I mentioned. That’s a specialized play that most likely doesn’t have a bunch of different packages.. so why put it on film when you don’t have to?

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They left some yards/points on the field, but it was another encouraging performance. You have to curb stomp the bad teams.

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Solid win. Curb stomped a bad team and the game was never in doubt.

If today showed anything, it’s that the Bears are no worse than average. Williams is a guy who can win a game for you, which the Bears haven’t had in a half dozen QBs.

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Only gripes I have is that Caleb's hero ball instincts might get him in bigger trouble against better D's with faster/smarter linemen, and I guess he could have lead Kmet down the field for an easy TD instead of throwing him back shoulder when he was open. The former is probably has a bigger chance of being ruinous, but maybe once the game slows down for him he can better understand when to use his athleticism to get him out of trouble versus throwing the ball away.


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11-15 200 yds 2 TDs no turnovers

Nice first half for our bust.

We’re blowing out Carolina boys, fire up the parade.

No one said anything about a damn parade.

You always have an excuse. Again you are blinded.

Williams has had a nice first half. He is clearly progressing. Yet you won't admit that. Even if he does something good there is an excuse as to why.

It is pathetic

I thought his anti Caleb stuff was a bit. I see now he's just really clueless about football

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I liked that they played the 2nd half like it was close and that Carolina had an actual offense.


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8th straight home win.

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Will Bernstein have a big sigh and disappointed tones as he discusses how unevolved that fight was?

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Will Bernstein have a big sigh and disappointed tones as he discusses how unevolved that fight was?

He'll probably just drop a "you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"

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Will Bernstein have a big sigh and disappointed tones as he discusses how unevolved that fight was?

He'll probably just drop a "you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"

:lol:
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You can't give Tevin Jimenez more than a 1 year deal. You probably should let him walk.

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You can't give Tevin Jimenez more than a 1 year deal. You probably should let him walk.


Yep.

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The Panthers aren’t good up front so they will dial up the pressure early and often forcing the Bears to deal with the blitz or drown. Neither the Bears offensive line nor Williams have shown an ability to consistently handle the blitz. The Bears can run on the Panthers, but all it takes is one negative play or a big penalty to create down and distances that make passing mandatory. That’s where I can see some turnovers occurring and early stalled drives.

I think the Bears can mostly get over this disadvantage through their special teams, except obviously the turnovers. I can’t really guess how many (if any) turnovers there will be since so many big defensive plays are called back these days.

So it comes down to the Bears defense against this surging Panthers offense. It’ll be a telling match-up for both teams, they are equally matched in a lot of ways.

At the end of the day I just don’t think the Bears have it. They don’t feel like they are ready to win consecutive games yet. Everything is still so much of a struggle with them. The Panthers aren’t world beaters but they are ready to seize on a team like Chicago.

Bears 16
Panthers 25

I’d say high odds of seeing the Bears suffer a safety in this one.


Boy you should switch back your name to Antarctica as cold as this take is .

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The Panthers aren’t good up front so they will dial up the pressure early and often forcing the Bears to deal with the blitz or drown. Neither the Bears offensive line nor Williams have shown an ability to consistently handle the blitz. The Bears can run on the Panthers, but all it takes is one negative play or a big penalty to create down and distances that make passing mandatory. That’s where I can see some turnovers occurring and early stalled drives.

I think the Bears can mostly get over this disadvantage through their special teams, except obviously the turnovers. I can’t really guess how many (if any) turnovers there will be since so many big defensive plays are called back these days.

So it comes down to the Bears defense against this surging Panthers offense. It’ll be a telling match-up for both teams, they are equally matched in a lot of ways.

At the end of the day I just don’t think the Bears have it. They don’t feel like they are ready to win consecutive games yet. Everything is still so much of a struggle with them. The Panthers aren’t world beaters but they are ready to seize on a team like Chicago.

Bears 16
Panthers 25

I’d say high odds of seeing the Bears suffer a safety in this one.


Boy you should switch back your name to Antarctica as cold as this take is .


Williams was 8 for 9 against the blitz vs. the Rams and 8 for 10 against it yesterday. That is highly encouraging.

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Presently on top of the QBR for week 5. Beat out Cousins and Mayfield, which was a bit surprising.


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I didn’t expect the Panthers offensive line to be totally unable to handle Billings and Dexter. I figured there was some talent on the Panthers defense, turns out there is pretty much zero.

If Andy Dalton were the Bears QB and Carolina had Caleb Williams nothing would’ve changed in the result. Nothing Williams did was particularly extraordinary or even that good, the Bears receivers were wide open and the blocking was there. He basically played 7 on 7.


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If Andy Dalton were the Bears QB and Carolina had Caleb Williams nothing would’ve changed in the result. Nothing Williams did was particularly extraordinary or even that good, the Bears receivers were wide open and the blocking was there. He basically played 7 on 7.

That's pretty good for a QB in his fifth start during his rookie year though. Williams is already at playing at a level which projects him as a borderline top ten QB and he's improving every week. Now, rookie stats often lie in both directions so nothing is guaranteed for future years but Williams is easily displaying the most potential we've ever seen in a Bears quarterback in the last 3 games.

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I didn’t expect the Panthers offensive line to be totally unable to handle Billings and Dexter. I figured there was some talent on the Panthers defense, turns out there is pretty much zero.

If Andy Dalton were the Bears QB and Carolina had Caleb Williams nothing would’ve changed in the result. Nothing Williams did was particularly extraordinary or even that good, the Bears receivers were wide open and the blocking was there. He basically played 7 on 7.

They were terrible. NE terrible. It's not some huge leap saying nothing would be different switching QBs.


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If Andy Dalton were the Bears QB and Carolina had Caleb Williams nothing would’ve changed in the result. Nothing Williams did was particularly extraordinary or even that good, the Bears receivers were wide open and the blocking was there. He basically played 7 on 7.

That's pretty good for a QB in his fifth start during his rookie year though. Williams is already at playing at a level which projects him as a borderline top ten QB and he's improving every week. Now, rookie stats often lie in both directions so nothing is guaranteed for future years but Williams is easily displaying the most potential we've ever seen in a Bears quarterback in the last 3 games.

The only time he’s shown any improvement was this week and it 100% was the fact that he played the NFL’s worst defense by far. Though of course the Colts and Rams were contending for that spot too.

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The only time he’s shown any improvement was this week and it 100% was the fact that he played the NFL’s worst defense by far. Though of course the Colts and Rams were contending for that spot too.
He's improved in every game, though start 4 was improvement by being patient enough to take what the defense was giving him.

You don't think he improved from game 2 to game 3?

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If Andy Dalton were the Bears QB and Carolina had Caleb Williams nothing would’ve changed in the result. Nothing Williams did was particularly extraordinary or even that good, the Bears receivers were wide open and the blocking was there. He basically played 7 on 7.

That's pretty good for a QB in his fifth start during his rookie year though. Williams is already at playing at a level which projects him as a borderline top ten QB and he's improving every week. Now, rookie stats often lie in both directions so nothing is guaranteed for future years but Williams is easily displaying the most potential we've ever seen in a Bears quarterback in the last 3 games.

Its kinda nice to talk about the quarterback potential for the Bears without having to include " LOOK AT HIS RUNS THOUGH !!!"

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The only time he’s shown any improvement was this week and it 100% was the fact that he played the NFL’s worst defense by far. Though of course the Colts and Rams were contending for that spot too.
He's improved in every game, though start 4 was improvement by being patient enough to take what the defense was giving him.

You don't think he improved from game 2 to game 3?

No, he was worse against the Colts. The garbage time stat padding is what iced the game for Indy and the Hail Mary is purely irrelevant. If Andy Dalton was Bears quarterback instead of Caleb Williams the Bears are a one-loss, perhaps even undefeated, team. But they’ve really only played one team that rates as decent or above.


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Kurt Warner later today: It was better, but he's still struggling against the blitz. I know he was sacked 30 times, but I still believe Week 2 was his best game.

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The only time he’s shown any improvement was this week and it 100% was the fact that he played the NFL’s worst defense by far. Though of course the Colts and Rams were contending for that spot too.
He's improved in every game, though start 4 was improvement by being patient enough to take what the defense was giving him.

You don't think he improved from game 2 to game 3?

No, he was worse against the Colts. The garbage time stat padding is what iced the game for Indy and the Hail Mary is purely irrelevant. If Andy Dalton was Bears quarterback instead of Caleb Williams the Bears are a one-loss, perhaps even undefeated, team. But they’ve really only played one team that rates as decent or above.

Game 2:
23/37(62%), 4.7 y/a, 0 touchdowns, 2 interceptions, 51 rating
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33/52(63%), 6.98 y/a, 2 touchdowns, 2 interceptions, 80.8 rating

I get the hail mary was a fluke play but even if you take out those 40 yards he was much better in game 3 than game 2 and it's indefensible to argue otherwise.

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Right, I already told you. The Indy game stats are a mirage, he was actually quite terrible in that game and the Bears would’ve won with any other quarterback. He was pretty much the NFL’s worst QB through three games then he played a Rams team that has been essentially eliminated from the league by injuries and a Carolina team with zero talent. He was still mediocre against the Rams and was average against Carolina.

What do you think happens when the Bears start playing real teams?


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Right, I already told you. The Indy game stats are a mirage, he was actually quite terrible in that game and the Bears would’ve won with any other quarterback. He was pretty much the NFL’s worst QB through three games then he played a Rams team that has been essentially eliminated from the league by injuries and a Carolina team with zero talent. He was still mediocre against the Rams and was average against Carolina.
He was the NFL's worst QB through 2 games. He's been at worst league average in games 3-5.

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What do you think happens when the Bears start playing real teams?
I do think he'll have another bad game this year and maybe even two but I expect him to continue for the rest of the season on the pace he has for games 3-5. More touchdowns that interceptions. 60%+ completion rate. 250+ passing yards unless it's a game where he barely throws.

I guess the question becomes what do you think happens when the Bears start playing real teams?

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I think this is the season’s high water mark here. Idk, the Bears schedule is pathetic. Even the games against Seattle and the Niners don’t look so tough now. The wheels might not come off until next year, but eventually they will. And then he’ll start lashing out, crying, blaming others, etc.


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I think this is the season’s high water mark here. Idk, the Bears schedule is pathetic. Even the games against Seattle and the Niners don’t look so tough now. The wheels might not come off until next year, but eventually they will. And then he’ll start lashing out, crying, blaming others, etc.

Don't go out on a limb too much that Williams won't do significantly better than a 126 QB rating this year.

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Possibly because I kept hitting my props during the game, but I thought Williams played well. Going back and watching the highlights, Williams best plays


Williams still doesn't throw guys open, something like this pass to Keenan Allen, except Keenan's looking back at the QB the entire break and it's more of a deep slant than say a throw to a spot last-second curl/hook.


Williams ran more than i thought he did. Caleb commits to the run (or at least he doesn't pull up and pass) once the pocket collapses and he goes into scramble mode. Like this completion to Moore except that's a designed roll-out play. Would like to see Williams on a scramble take advantage of the defense moving up and leaving guys open behind them.

Holy grand canyon defense, receivers were so wide-open all-game yesterday:

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