OK right but where is he ranking now??

Because what you’re saying is that he’s basically guaranteed 100% to be better than fifteen guys around the league. I pull up the QBR rankings (not a perfect metric, but illustrative just to give a big picture around the league) and I’m not sure I really see any future he’s better than most of the guys on that list. And that’s not counting all the rookies from his own draft class who look better than him, nor the guys from next year’s draft class that will inevitably. look better than him. Or even prior drafted guys like JJ McCarthy or Micheal Penix who won’t have to perform particularly well to look better than Williams.

He’s in the pile with Anthony Richardson and Bryce Young. The same pile Justin Fields and Kenny Pickett were in last year. Like Zach Wilson, Sam Darnold, Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky before them. That’s the trajectory, and it’s not even really debatable. To say with certainty that he will play better than Kirk Cousins, Justin Herbert and Jared Goff have played this year just doesn’t seem grounded in reality. Not at all.

It's a prediction. You are free to make your own. We'll see who is closer to correct next year. Though, I think you have him being benched for poor performance next year and his Bears career ending fairly quickly after that.

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He sucks, but all bets are off on how the Bears handle this particular quarterback who sucks. He’s such a DEI jackpot that George might make sure he sticks around and gets a veteran contract. The Giants did it for Daniel Jones, I won’t rule out the Bears doing the same.

Since you seem fixated on me saying he'll be a league average starter next year, then feel free to say where you think he will land on the same scale next year.

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Bottom third. It gets to be a bit mushy at that level, he could be anything from worst overall to somewhere around twentieth. But he’ll be a distinct tier below the mid guys.

Wow. So a difference of possibly 5 starting QBs between us. I now see why you keep on bringing it up.

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To be fair, you said definitely top 15 and more likely top 10. That’s a pretty big jump.

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why are you arguing with this guy?

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He also said that he meant next season when he claimed that Caleb would be better than Justin Fields "fairly quickly"

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Didn't Brick say that Caleb would be better as a Bears rookie than was Justin? A point you immediately made a strawman of?

So we’re just ending sentences with prepositions these days? John Dryden must be rolling in his grave.

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That always been Brick-san problem. So eager understand but unwilling accept.

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

Fine: A point out of which you immediately made a strawman?

Link?

All I see is me saying after game 5 with how he is playing he would project to a borderline top ten QB but that's not a prediction.

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Yes. One of my favorite The Doctor Of Self-Owns moments.

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It's rather cute how one lie begets another lie and another lie and another lie with these 2

JLN has obvious mental health issues, and Brick is more than happy to be an unabashed enabler even as he knows that he has said issues.

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You confirmed what I said. Did you forget that?

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Oh yeah I forgot. The accompanying Gaslighting is always soon to follow.

Fact of the matter is this Brick McCarver. JLN has obvious mental health issues. With each and every example of your supporting his lunacy, irs starting to become apparent that so do you.

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It just makes it funnier that I didn't even remember how right I actually was. You should just drop the "fairly quickly" thing. I was talking about Williams as a rookie and Fields as a rookie, and guess who is already better than Fields as a rookie? Caleb Williams even with his multiple terrible games.

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See again with all of the lying which guys like you and JLN do around here, it's IMPOSSIBLE to have the sort of conversation that "normal" people have. The "fairly quickly" comment had nothing to do with each as a Rookie. That is until Caleb began to suck of course. Then it became all about his being a Rookie.

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Again, I didn't even remember that "fairly quickly" was about him being better as a rookie. That's because it was a quick comment that I didn't think was a big deal. You kept on bringing it up which led me to have to look it up and I realized that I was actually already correct and so did you.



No reason to argue this further. You acknowledged that I was right even though neither of us knew how right I was.

Done. Move on.

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More Brick lying. This statement was made during the very same conversation. It's clear that it had nothing to do with their respective careers as Rookies.

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Mully and Haugh made it seem like the NFL admitted there was a penalty on the FG block. Leverage probably. Doesn't matter in the record.

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Nothing in your comment pertained to their careers as Rookies.

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It was earlier in the thread and you acknowledged it. Done.

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I get why you'd want to shift the focus on a stupid comment McCarver, however it's not going to fly. Either provide evidence from the actual conversation that we were discussing rookie seasons, or else you're lying. And how can it be about the Rookie Seasons of each when you later claimed that for you "Fairly Clearly" meant year 2? Just Asking A Question

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I'm going to do something like that when you already confirmed I was talking about rookie years.

Honestly, I didn't even remember most of the discussion. You kept on bringing it up which forced me to go look at what it was about and it turns out I was already right which was a nice surprise.

Williams will be a better quarterback in year 2 than Fields is in year 5. I hope this settles things.

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robbie gould adding another nugget on the end of game play calling

The right hash is where Caleb buries his finger nail polish bottles