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Even when this buffoon gets it incorrect at every turn, he still forges on nonetheless. What a dumbass! Thank God that I van recall those halcyon days when the Bears were competing for championships and "Chicago" Bear fans didn't gloat while being in the throes of 6 game losing streaks.

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Bears still +1 in point differential. Those Carolina and Jacksonville wins are doing piano-mover levels of heavy lifting.


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For all of the bluster regarding Eberflus the game was lost when he threw the pass directly at DJ Moore's Feet. That was a Touchdown if he complete's the pass. And Moore was wide open. Easy pitch and catch play

Yup. Or it could’ve been over any number of times the ball was thrown directly to a Detroit defender who actually caught it.

Also this game featured genuinely the worst 4th down pass interference call in NFL history.


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T Brown made some good adjustments at half

All of Detroit’s defensive starters have left the game to injury. He went from facing a 10-1 juggernaut to an imitation of Carolina, and the on-field result tracks exactly along those lines.


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For all of the bluster regarding Eberflus the game was lost when he threw the pass directly at DJ Moore's Feet. That was a Touchdown if he complete's the pass. And Moore was wide open. Easy pitch and catch play

Yup. Or it could’ve been over any number of times the ball was thrown directly to a Detroit defender who actually caught it.

Also this game featured genuinely the worst 4th down pass interference call in NFL history.

I wouldnt comment too much on the officiating favoring the Bears .

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USA wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
For all of the bluster regarding Eberflus the game was lost when he threw the pass directly at DJ Moore's Feet. That was a Touchdown if he complete's the pass. And Moore was wide open. Easy pitch and catch play

Yup. Or it could’ve been over any number of times the ball was thrown directly to a Detroit defender who actually caught it.

Also this game featured genuinely the worst 4th down pass interference call in NFL history.

I wouldnt comment too much on the officiating favoring the Bears .

That call transcends everything else that happened. If the Bears would’ve won on that play there would have been a ton of controversy around it.


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If the Bears would’ve won on that play there would have been a ton of controversy around it.

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Can someone explain why Caleb was changing the call with 20 seconds left? Flus said he was supposed to run the same play again so they could just snap it quickly


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Can someone explain why Caleb was changing the call with 20 seconds left?

He said he adjusted Rome’s route because he didn’t think they’d have enough time to run another play and was trying to get him one on one in the end zone. Implication was that he wasn’t allowed to call time out for some reason.

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Can someone explain why Caleb was changing the call with 20 seconds left?

He said he adjusted Rome’s route because he didn’t think they’d have enough time to run another play and was trying to get him one on one in the end zone. Implication was that he wasn’t allowed to call time out for some reason.

Even if Caleb was lollygagging, why doesn't the head coach reflexively call timeout when he sees it? Why not call timeout after the sack to reset and leave yourself enough time for a spike should you complete the play out of the timeout? And even in the final last ticks of the clock when the hail Mary becomes necessary, why not call a timeout to get a deep pass play call in?


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Can someone explain why Caleb was changing the call with 20 seconds left?

He said he adjusted Rome’s route because he didn’t think they’d have enough time to run another play and was trying to get him one on one in the end zone. Implication was that he wasn’t allowed to call time out for some reason.

Even if Caleb was lollygagging, why doesn't the head coach reflexively call timeout when he sees it? Why not call timeout after the sack to reset and leave yourself enough time for a spike should you complete the play out of the timeout? And even in the final last ticks of the clock when the hail Mary becomes necessary, why not call a timeout to get a deep pass play call in?

Because he is saving the timeout in case there was (another) sack or, much more likely, the Bears get into field goal range then tackled in bounds. With the timeout Detroit has to cover the whole field, without the timeout Detroit just has to cover the sidelines and the end zone.

Trust me, if the Bears had used the timeout with :15 left, then thrown it over the middle and failed to spike it in time the calls to fire him would be just as intense. This one, like the Green Bay, is simply not on him. The players have to execute and between the miracle PI on 4th & 14, the sure fire touchdown that was thrown into the dirt for no reason and the two negative plays before the clock ran out this game really should’ve been over long before.


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And when I say “not on him” I just mean not those particular moments. This team is an ill prepared mess, he takes enough blame for the Bears being down multiple scores in the fourth quarter that he should be gone.


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blackhawksfan wrote:
Can someone explain why Caleb was changing the call with 20 seconds left?

He said he adjusted Rome’s route because he didn’t think they’d have enough time to run another play and was trying to get him one on one in the end zone. Implication was that he wasn’t allowed to call time out for some reason.

Even if Caleb was lollygagging, why doesn't the head coach reflexively call timeout when he sees it? Why not call timeout after the sack to reset and leave yourself enough time for a spike should you complete the play out of the timeout? And even in the final last ticks of the clock when the hail Mary becomes necessary, why not call a timeout to get a deep pass play call in?


Yeah, Flus blew it but what in the hell was Caleb doing? Flus said in the post game they were supposed to run the same play Caleb got sacked on so they could snap the ball quickly. He changes the play then he waits another 5 seconds before they snap the ball. No urgency at all! Shit show all the way around


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 Post subject: Re: Bears @ Lions
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Not bad, considering they only showed up for half the game


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 Post subject: Re: Bears @ Lions
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It was a brutal day for the offensive line, inside guys were getting overpowered and your OT play was brutal, especially in the 4th quarter when you had to go to Borom at RT.

Watching the second to last play of the game sums up the Bears season.

The guy you handed the LT job barely got out of his stance and was beaten so badly that he couldn't even hold the DE that was running past him.

The guy you handed one of the starting G job got stood up and pushed into the QB's lap.

The petite guy you handed the starting C job actually did his job and snapped the ball, but is so tiny that he was getting shoved back into the QB's lap.

The guy you had on the bench and was supposed to be your swing OT had to take over a guard job from the guy you handed the job to, so you were forced to play a guy that you wanted to cut at RT.

The guy you were forced to go with at RT did not even get out of his stance and seemed confused as he haplessly watched the DE run unabated to the QB, you would be better off putting Marcedes Lewis at RT.

So your rookie QB had both DE's in his lap a half second after taking the snap and could not step up because the interior of your line had been caved into his lap.

Great job Ryan Poles, you have a great eye for offensive line talent and your OC and offensive line coach apparently cannot coach offensive lineman, your younger guys are actually regressing under the guys your hired.


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For all of the bluster regarding Eberflus the game was lost when he threw the pass directly at DJ Moore's Feet. That was a Touchdown if he complete's the pass. And Moore was wide open. Easy pitch and catch play

Yup. Or it could’ve been over any number of times the ball was thrown directly to a Detroit defender who actually caught it.

Also this game featured genuinely the worst 4th down pass interference call in NFL history.

I wouldnt comment too much on the officiating favoring the Bears .

That call transcends everything else that happened. If the Bears would’ve won on that play there would have been a ton of controversy around it.
Bullshit. Bears stopped the Lions on third down and That phantom horse collar tackle resulted in seven points for Detroit.

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And when I say “not on him” I just mean not those particular moments. This team is an ill prepared mess, he takes enough blame for the Bears being down multiple scores in the fourth quarter that he should be gone.

"Squandering a timeout in the final sequence of the game" is absolutely 100% on the coach. Your crusader against identitarianism has rotted your brain.


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And when I say “not on him” I just mean not those particular moments. This team is an ill prepared mess, he takes enough blame for the Bears being down multiple scores in the fourth quarter that he should be gone.

"Squandering a timeout in the final sequence of the game" is absolutely 100% on the coach. Your crusader against identitarianism has rotted your brain.

OK but I hope you understand that it made sense why he wanted to hold onto that timeout. For the Bears to get back into field goal range they really needed to be able to use the middle of the field and in order to use the middle of the field they needed to preserve the timeout.

His bullshit explanation and media prattle I don’t know what he’s even saying.


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Caleb is starting to remind me of another USC alum, Matt Leinart.


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Caleb is starting to remind me of another USC alum, Matt Leinart.


Maybe u need to be reminded about the logout button, use it dumbass.

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Caleb is starting to remind me of another USC alum, Matt Leinart.


Yep. Most of this was on Caleb Williams. You have to snap the ball in that situation. He was sacked at 32 seconds. Probably take 10-14 seconds max to get to the line of scrimmage and get the play called. 6 seconds to run the play after the play is snapped and then you call the Field Goal team on.

27 seconds to call a play while in the hurry up offense is inexcusable. Everflus could have called the T.O. when he was first sacked. But if he does it severely limits his options. Caleb should have had enough game awareness to get the play called well before 5 seconds were on the clock.

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There is no objective world where this is mainly on Williams.

The clock runs out with a timeout as you are in FG range.

That is on the head coach.

Stop with this nonsense.

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Lombardi pretty much absolved Williams regarding the final sequence.
It's the "golden rule" in the league to call timeout after the sack.


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There is no objective world where this is mainly on Williams.

The clock runs out with a timeout as you are in FG range.

That is on the head coach.

Stop with this nonsense.


So all the criticism that is being levied at Eberflus all the time is "unbiased" yet the criticism of Williams is not? Got it.

The reason that very few have ever seen such a thing is because there are very few QBs that would have ever done such a thing

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Williams can get plenty of criticism and 100% he should not have taken a sack at the end of the game. But the clock continuing to run while having a TO while in FG range is 100% on the head coach.

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Williams can get plenty of criticism and 100% he should not have taken a sack at the end of the game. But the clock continuing to run while having a TO while in FG range is 100% on the head coach.

100%???? Idk I’d say at least one percent goes to the quarterback running around like a chicken with his head cut off. An arrogant rookie thinking he needs to “calm down” veterans like Kmet and DJ Moore while the clock ticks to zero.

Or maybe you think that’s zero factor at all whatsoever in the catastrophe.


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There is no objective world where this is mainly on Williams.

The clock runs out with a timeout as you are in FG range.

That is on the head coach.

Stop with this nonsense.


Timeouts are always on the coach.

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Can't put 100% of the blame on Williams for getting sacked when the defender was completely unblocked.

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