You bought the bumslaying. REAL BEAR FANS didn't. That's on you McCarver

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It’s just OK to admit you guys were wrong on Williams. You know if we can get to a point where saying out loud that he sucks becomes normalized in Bearsworld you might actually get to a point where you can hire a good coach who gets the authority to bench him and move on.

But again, he played very well against two teams that have lost a combined three games.

Also, I'll point out once again that Fields in his three year career had three wins against teams that finished with a winning record.

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And Caleb has none. Caleb's team this year is on pace to have 1 more win than Fields did in the year Fields team tanked. Ouch Babe!
Only he didn't "play well" against those teams. You also believe that he "played well" yesterday too. Even though he passed for -3 yards in the first half.

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Williams played well against the Vikings and Lions.

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lol, lmao even

The Bears were down double digits in both of those games in the 4th Quarter

In the Vikings game alone they were down 11 with a minute and a half to go and depended on fluke plays in order to "get back into it".

Detroit also had about 7 starters out as well as a few reserves. And yet he still couldn't seem to "get going" until they were 2 scores down.

The Bears are on pace to win 1 more game than they won during a year in which they tanked. Ouch!

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This goes back to the question if Williams has ever played a good game in the NFL.

Personally, I'll take a 5 touchdowns and 0 interceptions over 2 games for the rest of his career and I'll be happy.

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Oh yeah. Yesterday he broke the immortal Charlie Batch's record for most consecutive games without an int

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Stats in a game that went to OT, or should have went to OT, are not garbage time stats in any way, shape, or form.

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No one with a functioning brain would ever take stats accumulated in games which the other team believed to be over very seriously. That's why there are always guys like you around who will happily do so.

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Imagine making an argument that a game that went to OT was a game in which the other team believed to be over.

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To be fair; If Justin was our QB and the game went to OT; The other team would think it was over.

Remind me again how many game winning drives Justin had over his 4 years? Just asking a question. Hint, it will not be good.

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I can name quite a few gamed where Justin Fields gave his team the lead in the 4th Quarter only to have the Bears and their shitty defense Squander it on the next possession.

How MANY times has that happened with "Generational Talent" Caleb this year? Washington Game where he looked shitty throughout and needed his RB and a pretty good defense to save him most of the game? Just Asking Questions

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It's worth noting that through 13 games as a rookie, Caleb Williams has passed for more yards than Justin Fields in any of his 3 seasons here, with a better completion percentage than any of Justin's Chicago seasons, the same number of TDs as Justin Fields threw in his vaunted 3rd year in the NFL (1 fewer than his 2nd NFL season as well), an interception rate less than half that of any of Justin's seasons in Chicago, more passing first downs than any Fields season here, and a better passer rating than any Justin Fields season in Chicago. All while being sacked more than Fields was in 15 games in 2022 and with a similarly ineffective defense. As a rookie.

I'll point out that those stats happened "fairly quickly".

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I'll "fairly quickly" point out that Justin Fields was a Rookie at the same age that Caleb was a college player

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Caleb Williams played his last game on his 22nd birthday. I love how you've dug in so deep on this flawed point.

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And Justin Fields was done playing college Football when he was still 21 years old. Thus what's your point? Just Asking A Question

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Caleb Williams already has better passing stats (Yards, Completion%, INT%, Passer Rating) than 22, 23, and 24 year old Justin Fields. This whole "Caleb Williams is old" line of argument from you is so astonishingly asinine because you know who is older than Caleb Williams? Justin Fields.

And yet the Bears still had better offensive numbers when
A. He was not their QB
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B. When Justin had far fewer weapons. How in the hell could that possibly be I wonder? Just Asking A Question

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So, if Caleb Williams had hypothetically been born one day later then you would consider him to have been 21 during his senior year of college?

My point is that your point is stupid.

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You think it's stupid to factor "age" into the assessment of a player when each assessment that you make regarding Caleb is based on his age as a player. Now that's what's stupid

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You can factor age into the assessment of a player but it's stupid to factor it in much when comparing an age difference of around 100 days.

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What's really stupid is evaluations based on stats but not the relative supporting casts of each player.

Fact of the matter is this. Caleb Williams (with 2 1200 yard receivers to throw too) is the QB of arguably THEE worst offense in the NFL currently.

This and yet you are still trolling for him. You can't find someone more "worthy" to focus so much energy upon? This one is done.

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This is provably false. The closest Justin Fields ever got to league average Yards/Game was when he averaged 21 fewer yards per game than the average NFL passing offense. Caleb Williams is averaging only 7 yards less than the NFL average, and that's being dragged down by the offensive struggles under Waldron. In his last 4 games since the OC was replaced, he's actually averaging 240 Y/G, 22 yards above league average. Justin's best passing TD/G average was 1.23, which is Williams' mark right now, again which is dragged down by the regression brought on by the OC (over the last 4 it's nearly 2 TD/G).

The Bears offense isn't good. However, what does this have to do with the very minor age difference with Justin Fields? The Bears offense wasn't good with Fields either.

Are you finally giving up?

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. The Bears offense during the tanking season was better than it is now

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I'm happy to respond but I need to make sure this isn't actually done. Is it done?

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Are you actually quoting me correctly? Just Asking A Question

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