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The point is they've won 4 games with the great Caleb Williams. Turns out the team is a disaster and the GM didn't know it. The GM thought that by picking a QB, a receiver, and signing another receiver, that they were a 9 win team.

Why we got into the wilderness is a CFMB thing. All you dopes have let LTG drive you around crashing into shit and then you sign up to do it some more. It ain't on him. It's on all you dopes.

Hes really just trolling.


Yes, I am putting him on ignore January 1st. It's my New Years resolution to not feed the trolls.

Why wait until then? Do it now and let the piece of shit talk to himself. This board is the only human interaction he gets outside of work so it's good to rob him of that.


I've hosted 2 events in the past month (1 over the weekend) where MANY HUMANS came out solely for the purpose of being around me dumbass! But keep checking for me and speculating on an anonymous message board what my social "interactions" happen to be creep If you had the sort of popularity which i enjoy they''d elect your sorry ass the MAYOR OF Bentonville


Wowie! I am just amazed by the self indulgent blathering by this cretin. Since when has anyone seen a person brag about so much with so little proof of a claimed "popularity"?

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K/BB ratio seems a fairly basic stat that tells a lot.

Can you further explain what you mean about stats based on errors and their non-sensical meaning?

It's literally "strikeouts per walk" but even a basic understanding of the game includes knowing that walking more batters doesn't mean more strikeouts, and a low strikeouts per walk figure doesn't necessarily mean that there are an inordinate number of walks allowed, nor does it indicate an ineffective pitcher overall.

As for errors, the sabermetric movement identified the stat and analysis relying on it to be near meaningless because the stat itself is a judgement call about defensive play made by, in most cases, a local sportswriter acting as the official scorekeeper. It robs a play of context.

Similarly, "pressure" or "hurry" stats are largely judgement calls made by non-standardized scorecard keepers that rob the play on the field of any context. So a "pressure" of a QB with a good offensive line might actually be a tackle gets beat at the top of the QBs drop and he has to step up a bit to go through progressions, and that is counted the same as both guards protecting Caleb Williams getting dusted at the snap and his left tackle getting his doors blown off. But which of the two situations is more likely to be converted into a sack?

Your first thought is insane, your second thought makes total sense. That doesn't happen much here.

I guess I should explain that nobody with a basic understanding of the game and the stat thinks that walking more batters means more strikeouts, and a low strikeouts per walk figure means that there are an inordinate number of walks allowed.

It's a power/stuff vs control stat. It doesn't pretend not to be. You got your Skubals and then you got your Kopechs. If you're sitting down to pick a closer, it's something you have to look at.



All I know is that most of this entire slog through how bad or not Williams is might not be necessary if Poles had done what a smart GM should do to build an offensive line that can produce a running game, make play action work, and give a quarterback an average chance of completing a pass on his route tree of NFL caliber passes. Makes you also wonder about the worth of both (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and Fields.

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The Hawk wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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Nardi wrote:
The point is they've won 4 games with the great Caleb Williams. Turns out the team is a disaster and the GM didn't know it. The GM thought that by picking a QB, a receiver, and signing another receiver, that they were a 9 win team.

Why we got into the wilderness is a CFMB thing. All you dopes have let LTG drive you around crashing into shit and then you sign up to do it some more. It ain't on him. It's on all you dopes.

Hes really just trolling.


Yes, I am putting him on ignore January 1st. It's my New Years resolution to not feed the trolls.

Why wait until then? Do it now and let the piece of shit talk to himself. This board is the only human interaction he gets outside of work so it's good to rob him of that.


I've hosted 2 events in the past month (1 over the weekend) where MANY HUMANS came out solely for the purpose of being around me dumbass! But keep checking for me and speculating on an anonymous message board what my social "interactions" happen to be creep If you had the sort of popularity which i enjoy they''d elect your sorry ass the MAYOR OF Bentonville


Wowie! I am just amazed by the self indulgent blathering by this cretin. Since when has anyone seen a person brag about so much with so little proof of a claimed "popularity"?


You seem salty that you weren't invited

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You seem salty that you weren't invited

Me too. Think of the swagger me and Hawk could bring.
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Pack down 17. Everything from here is garbage time

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U mad?

Love had a 80+ QBR for the game.
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U mad?

Love had a 80+ QBR for the game.


Not even close. Pack lost and the flaws in the garbge time theory were displayed with less biased evidence

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Whoa Nellie!
"Justin Fields Can't Throw"
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First 533 pass attempts of career
Caleb Williams: 3,393 pass yards

First 523 pass attempts of career
Justin Fields: 3,766 pass yards

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Whoa Nellie!
"Justin Fields Can't Throw"
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First 533 pass attempts of career
Caleb Williams: 3,393 pass yards

First 523 pass attempts of career
Justin Fields: 3,766 pass yards

Yards don't count, remember? Justin had only 1 more passing TD...and 14 more INTs in that "attempts" timespan, which saw Justin play in 8 more games.
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Whoa Nellie!
"Justin Fields Can't Throw"
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First 533 pass attempts of career
Caleb Williams: 3,393 pass yards

First 523 pass attempts of career
Justin Fields: 3,766 pass yards

Yards don't count, remember? Justin had only 1 more passing TD...and 14 more INTs in that "attempts" timespan, which saw Justin play in 8 more games.


Hey Hartgrove..I'm just providing statistical analysis which a "football genius" such as yourself can relate too!

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I have no problem saying Jayden Daniels was had a better rookie season
despite any statistical similarities (and there are a few) with Caleb's rookie season

Jayden Daniels has had a much better rookie season than Caleb Williams. And feel free to demonstrate what those "similarities" happen to be whenever you get the chance also
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if you admit Caleb has had a much better rookie season than Justin Fields. Deal?

He actually didn't have a "much better season" than Fields but first "we" have to address the "similarities" between Daniels and Caleb. Other than overall yardage, what were they?

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if you admit Caleb has had a much better rookie season than Justin Fields. Deal?


You fuckin troy McClure wannabe retard Caleb had a better season then field's third year fuckin dumb ass not just the rookie year. Go fuck yourself with a real lawyers black dick.

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if you admit Caleb has had a much better rookie season than Justin Fields. Deal?


You fuckin troy McClure wannabe retard Caleb had a better season then field's third year fuckin dumb ass not just the rookie year. Go fuck yourself with a real lawyers black dick.

Well thought out post with salient points.
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I have no problem saying Jayden Daniels was had a better rookie season
despite any statistical similarities (and there are a few) with Caleb's rookie season

Jayden Daniels has had a much better rookie season than Caleb Williams. And feel free to demonstrate what those "similarities" happen to be whenever you get the chance also
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

if you admit Caleb has had a much better rookie season than Justin Fields. Deal?

He actually didn't have a "much better season" than Fields but first "we" have to address the "similarities" between Daniels and Caleb. Other than overall yardage, what were they?

You've already admitted that Jayden can't be compared to Caleb because the former is almost a full year older than the latter. But to that end I think it's promising that a younger prospect in Caleb Williams, behind a much worse offensive line, has been able to post similar yardage numbers to Jayden Daniels, and thrown for significantly fewer picks and a few less TDs. Both rookies have been good at avoiding turnovers, which rookies tend to struggle with, but Caleb has been a good bit better.

Now let's hear why you think Caleb's rookie season hasn't been "much better" than Justin's?
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I have no problem saying Jayden Daniels was had a better rookie season
despite any statistical similarities (and there are a few) with Caleb's rookie season

Jayden Daniels has had a much better rookie season than Caleb Williams. And feel free to demonstrate what those "similarities" happen to be whenever you get the chance also
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:

if you admit Caleb has had a much better rookie season than Justin Fields. Deal?

He actually didn't have a "much better season" than Fields but first "we" have to address the "similarities" between Daniels and Caleb. Other than overall yardage, what were they?

You've already admitted that Jayden can't be compared to Caleb because the former is almost a full year older than the latter. But to that end I think it's promising that a younger prospect in Caleb Williams, behind a much worse offensive line, has been able to post similar yardage numbers to Jayden Daniels, and thrown for significantly fewer picks and a few less TDs. Both rookies have been good at avoiding turnovers, which rookies tend to struggle with, but Caleb has been a good bit better.

Now let's hear why you think Caleb's rookie season hasn't been "much better" than Justin's?


Your argument lacks "coherence" Hartgrove to say the least.

My argument does not.

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Better than Justin Fields in 3 Years? Light Em Up Chicago!

Yes.

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This one is already in the Books

https://youtu.be/23KSIKYCB-M?si=OH0xqZNHT5LTPsft

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Brick wrote:
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Better than Justin Fields in 3 Years? Light Em Up Chicago!

Yes.

It’s over. Been over since week 1.

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Hate to tell ya this "Amigo", but that is sort of the essence of how life works.
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Better than Justin Fields in 3 Years? Light Em Up Chicago!

Yes.

It’s over. Been over since week 1.

Week 3 or 4. Week 1 and 2 were rough.

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Yet people cheered when he found a way to hit the remarkable 200 yard mark even with that deep ball accuracy!


Guess who's cheering someone for passing for less than 200 yards for the 87th time this season However


Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Better than Justin Fields in 3 Years? Light Em Up Chicago!

Yes.

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Brick wrote:
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Better than Justin Fields in 3 Years? Light Em Up Chicago!

Yes.

It’s over. Been over since week 1.

Week 3 or 4. Week 1 and 2 were rough.

There was a demonstrated ability to propel the ball in a forward manner by training camp.

I’m being generous with week 1.

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Yet people cheered when he found a way to hit the remarkable 200 yard mark even with that deep ball accuracy!


Guess who's cheering someone for passing for less 200 yards for the 87th time this season However


Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Better than Justin Fields in 3 Years? Light Em Up Chicago!

Yes.

The bad version of Caleb Williams is the best we've had in a Bears uniform in a long time. Really looking forward to his improvement next year.

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Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
Yet people cheered when he found a way to hit the remarkable 200 yard mark even with that deep ball accuracy!


Guess who's cheering someone for passing for less 200 yards for the 87th time this season However


Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Better than Justin Fields in 3 Years? Light Em Up Chicago!

Yes.

The bad version of Caleb Williams is the best we've had in a Bears uniform in a long time. Really looking forward to his improvement next year.

Version?
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The bad version of Caleb Williams is the best we've had in a Bears uniform in a long time. Really looking forward to his improvement next year.

It's already a damn wrap.
https://youtu.be/23KSIKYCB-M?si=AqVPILNkGbIYItia

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Caleb "undefeated at Lambeau" Williams.
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USA wrote:
Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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Yet people cheered when he found a way to hit the remarkable 200 yard mark even with that deep ball accuracy!


Guess who's cheering someone for passing for less 200 yards for the 87th time this season However


Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Better than Justin Fields in 3 Years? Light Em Up Chicago!

Yes.

The bad version of Caleb Williams is the best we've had in a Bears uniform in a long time. Really looking forward to his improvement next year.

Version?

Rookies never get better.

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Caleb showed good WTW today.
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Brick wrote:
USA wrote:
Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
Yet people cheered when he found a way to hit the remarkable 200 yard mark even with that deep ball accuracy!


Guess who's cheering someone for passing for less 200 yards for the 87th time this season However


Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Better than Justin Fields in 3 Years? Light Em Up Chicago!

Yes.

The bad version of Caleb Williams is the best we've had in a Bears uniform in a long time. Really looking forward to his improvement next year.

Version?

Rookies never get better.

They very often get worse and Caleb has every single ingredient and trait to get significantly worse in the interceptions department. You want to disagree? OK sure, let me know again how this bum reminds you of Peyton Manning l m f a o
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https://youtu.be/23KSIKYCB-M?si=kxBLj1j6xUuRXSiq

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Too MANY contingencies for someone whom you consider to be "Just A Backup" McCarver
Of course there are contingencies. The draft hasn't even happened.


This is just more deflecting McCarver. You view bum ass Caleb as a starter. Which means Justin Fields is a starter too.

That makes no sense The Doctor Of Silly Arguments.


I kept receipts :lol: :lol:

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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What I’m doing is saying you’re arguing that a guy who was a backup wasn’t actually a backup because he might one day start even though he was most recently a backup.

The problem with your numerous responses is that none of them ever seems to address the essential point being made by me. Which is that he'll be signed as a starting QB in about 2-3 months. Do you disagree with this assertion?

I said I could see him signing for a bad team a long time ago.

You argued with that too.


So not "Just A Backup". Got it.

Currently just a backup. Potential future backup.

Schrödinger's backup.


In 2035 Antioch can unequivocally state that Justin Fields will definitely "Just Be, A Backup"

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