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I've been clear. No change. Draft a QB in 1st or second round. He's a placeholder and I'm right. If they don't then I was wrong and he seems to be a true starter.


You're only correct if they A. Draft someone in the Firsr Kr 2nd round. And B. This person beats him out for the spot down the line.

But seeing as you will be proven wrong on draft day both points are moot.

Sure. It's settled then. Though I would add that if he gets cut or traded after a year I was right then if you are adding extra stuff.

Nah it's just common sense. He cannot be a "placeholder" if the guy whom they draft doesn’t actually ever replace him.

If he starts the entire year and then they decide to move on then it would be because they miscalculated on him as a player and seek to upgrade the position.

That's hardly a "placeholder" situation.


What? Fields would literally be replaced before his contract expired in that situation. "Miscalculated" means he didn't perform as expected and is not a long term starter level QB. The very definition of a placeholder. :lol:


"placeholder" for whom then? Which QB is he holding a "place" for?


The one that becomes available or they draft that is a better option then him? Are you high? Just asking a question.

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The one that becomes available or they draft that is a better option then him? Are you high? Just asking a question.


You thought that Tyson Bagent was his "replacement" remember? And seeing as neither you nor Brick are willing to put any bread on the line (though you sure are posting quite a bit about it) it's clear that you don't believe that his Replacement will be on the Jets roster this season.

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It could be because they both suck.

But it's funny to think "they miscalculated on him as a player and seek to upgrade the position." is a win for the Fields cult.


It's not. However it still wouldn't mean that he was signed to be a "placeholder" either.

I'd be wrong. You'd be very wrong.


If you cannot ID another QB on the Jets roster whom he happened to be "holding a place for" then it is obvious that he wasn't signed to be a "placeholder".

It will be a joy to see how wrong you are if Fields is launched after one year with the Jets.

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It could be because they both suck.

But it's funny to think "they miscalculated on him as a player and seek to upgrade the position." is a win for the Fields cult.


It's not. However it still wouldn't mean that he was signed to be a "placeholder" either.

I'd be wrong. You'd be very wrong.


If you cannot ID another QB on the Jets roster whom he happened to be "holding a place for" then it is obvious that he wasn't signed to be a "placeholder".

It will be a joy to see how wrong you are if Fields is launched after one year with the Jets.


"Moving The Goalposts" once again :lol: :lol:

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Just to recap. None of what Brick claimed turned out to be true :lol: :lol:
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To do what? Lose games in the Double digits in a non tanking season?

Justin Fields is going to spend the offseason begging bad teams to give him a chance to compete for a starting job at a cheap rate. The Bears could be paying him $40-$45 million a year to be the starting QB when he may not be capable of being a starter anywhere but Cleveland next year.

I would argue that they could cut Williams now and it would be a better situation than having Fields as the future Bears starting QB.


While this all sounds jazzy to the internet trolls on here, it's all just gibberish. Justin Fields will sign to be someone's starter next year. If you don't believe it, then put the bread up. Because after all he's "Just A Backup" remember :lol: :lol:

He may start for a bad team that drafts a rookie and doesn't want him to have to start from day one. Otherwise, it's the Browns that are basically just counting down the decade until the Watson contract is gone.

Justin Fields is a poor mans Gardner Minshew. I'm ecstatic that the Bears aren't paying him $40 million a year for that.

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"He may start for a bad team that drafts a rookie and doesn't want him to have to start from day one."

I guess we will see.

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Brick wrote:
"He may start for a bad team that drafts a rookie and doesn't want him to have to start from day one."

I guess we will see.

We actually already have :lol: :lol:

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Justin Fields is going to spend the offseason begging bad teams to give him a chance to compete for a starting job at a cheap rate. The Bears could be paying him $40-$45 million a year to be the starting QB when he may not be capable of being a starter anywhere but Cleveland next year.


https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/article/je ... 04740.html

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Jets GM Darren Mougey declares that Justin Fields is New York's starting QB, won't face competition

His contract indicated as much. But New York Jets general manager Darren Mougey made it official Sunday: Justin Fields is New York's starting quarterback heading into next season. He won't face competition for the job from backup Tyrod Taylor or anybody else.

"He is the starter," Mougey told reporters at a news conference. "But Tyrod is going to be on his heels. Tyrod’s a pro’s pro. So really, it’s gonna be a great asset for Justin in the quarterback room.

"Tyrod’s been around the league for a long time. He knows what it takes to prepare and prep for this league and be ready to play."

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Damn brick. You've been pretty spot on so far.

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He can learn about a life amd longevity in the NFL as a QB2 from one of the best ever at it,Tyrod Taylor.


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Heard Cowherd say NYJ can't draft a QB.
Have to let it be Fields' team for at least a year.
Disagree 100%...if someone becomes available that is appealing you take him.


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Can't say anything else.... But people can talk themselves into anything, especially after the decision is over and done with. You cross your fingers and hope something clicks. It's happened. Sam Darnold was signed in Minnesota via the Make A Wish Foundation.


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Can't say anything else.... But people can talk themselves into anything, especially after the decision is over and done with. You cross your fingers and hope something clicks. It's happened. Sam Darnold was signed in Minnesota via the Make A Wish Foundation.

Of course he can. He owned the team during that draft.

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At least the results of this season will conclude the conflict.

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Why Bric really dislikes Justin Fields.


Justin Fields says confidence never wavered despite benching last season: ‘Everything happens for a reason’

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The Steelers have no QB and still didn't give Fields a serious offer. He couldn't even beat out R.Wilson who the Steelers also didn't want. But, we are suppose to believe he will find success on the JETS. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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He already found success. He got a guaranteed contract and is one of 32 starting quarterbacks. Barring injury, he's going to be in the league another decade and make a shit ton of money. That's his floor. And that's pretty damn successful.

QB is the hardest position in sports. About 50 of them are highly paid because of it.

Not doing something stupid is highly valued in the position. Obviously, there's 5-7 every year that take not doing something stupid to the next level. Although he'll never get to the elite level, he proved last year he's past the not doing something stupid stage in his career, while still being scary once or twice a game. Apparently that guarantees him $30M over two years.


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He already found success. He got a guaranteed contract and is one of 32 starting quarterbacks. Barring injury, he's going to be in the league another decade and make a shit ton of money. That's his floor. And that's pretty damn successful.

QB is the hardest position in sports. About 50 of them are highly paid because of it.

Not doing something stupid is highly valued in the position. Obviously, there's 5-7 every year that take not doing something stupid to the next level. Although he'll never get to the elite level, he proved last year he's past the not doing something stupid stage in his career, while still being scary once or twice a game. Apparently that guarantees him $30M over two years.


He played 6 games last season as a game manager. Lets see what he does with the training wheels off before we claim, He's "not doing something stupid."

I don't think those 6 games have proven him to be a legit starter in the league. He is still young enough to live off his potential. On the Field he has been a bust.

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He already found success. He got a guaranteed contract and is one of 32 starting quarterbacks. Barring injury, he's going to be in the league another decade and make a shit ton of money. That's his floor. And that's pretty damn successful.

QB is the hardest position in sports. About 50 of them are highly paid because of it.

Not doing something stupid is highly valued in the position. Obviously, there's 5-7 every year that take not doing something stupid to the next level. Although he'll never get to the elite level, he proved last year he's past the not doing something stupid stage in his career, while still being scary once or twice a game. Apparently that guarantees him $30M over two years.


He played 6 games last season as a game manager. Lets see what he does with the training wheels off before we claim, He's "not doing something stupid."

I don't think those 6 games have proven him to be a legit starter in the league. He is still young enough to live off his potential. On the Field he has been a bust.

I disagree with the bust thing. A bust at that position is Zach Wilson. An Andy Dalton-like career is a successful career. Plus, there's the Geno Smiths and the Sam Darnolds out there who've figured out some shit. So Fields floor is Andy Dalton. No question in my mind.


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Nardi wrote:
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He already found success. He got a guaranteed contract and is one of 32 starting quarterbacks. Barring injury, he's going to be in the league another decade and make a shit ton of money. That's his floor. And that's pretty damn successful.

QB is the hardest position in sports. About 50 of them are highly paid because of it.

Not doing something stupid is highly valued in the position. Obviously, there's 5-7 every year that take not doing something stupid to the next level. Although he'll never get to the elite level, he proved last year he's past the not doing something stupid stage in his career, while still being scary once or twice a game. Apparently that guarantees him $30M over two years.


He played 6 games last season as a game manager. Lets see what he does with the training wheels off before we claim, He's "not doing something stupid."

I don't think those 6 games have proven him to be a legit starter in the league. He is still young enough to live off his potential. On the Field he has been a bust.

I disagree with the bust thing. A bust at that position is Zach Wilson. An Andy Dalton-like career is a successful career. Plus, there's the Geno Smiths and the Sam Darnolds out there who've figured out some shit. So Fields floor is Andy Dalton. No question in my mind.


A.Dalton was a winning QB each of his first 5 seasons with the Bengals and led them to the playoffs in multiple seasons. He had 30 TD's during that run. Justin has never had those numbers or success with any team.

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The Steelers have no QB and still didn't give Fields a serious offer. He couldn't even beat out R.Wilson who the Steelers also didn't want. But, we are suppose to believe he will find success on the JETS. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah because they banked on Justin Fields being their QB and listened to guys like on the internet who fallaciously claimed that no one wanted him as a starter Like you boy were they wrong :lol: :lol:

But he couldn't beat out Cooking Russ
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He already found success. He got a guaranteed contract and is one of 32 starting quarterbacks. Barring injury, he's going to be in the league another decade and make a shit ton of money. That's his floor. And that's pretty damn successful.

QB is the hardest position in sports. About 50 of them are highly paid because of it.

Not doing something stupid is highly valued in the position. Obviously, there's 5-7 every year that take not doing something stupid to the next level. Although he'll never get to the elite level, he proved last year he's past the not doing something stupid stage in his career, while still being scary once or twice a game. Apparently that guarantees him $30M over two years.


He played 6 games last season as a game manager. Lets see what he does with the training wheels off before we claim, He's "not doing something stupid."

I don't think those 6 games have proven him to be a legit starter in the league. He is still young enough to live off his potential. On the Field he has been a bust.

I disagree with the bust thing. A bust at that position is Zach Wilson. An Andy Dalton-like career is a successful career. Plus, there's the Geno Smiths and the Sam Darnolds out there who've figured out some shit. So Fields floor is Andy Dalton. No question in my mind.


A.Dalton was a winning QB each of his first 5 seasons with the Bengals and led them to the playoffs in multiple seasons. He had 30 TD's during that run. Justin has never had those numbers or success with any team.

So give Fields that 5th year before you close the book. I'm 90% sure he's not a above average starter but I'm 99% sure he's a really good backup. That's success in my book.


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Nardi wrote:
So give Fields that 5th year before you close the book. I'm 90% sure he's not a above average starter but I'm 99% sure he's a really good backup. That's success in my book.


In the immortal words of the great Mark Aguirre,
Let's roll the damn ball out and see. Which is what Aaron Glenn is seemingly comfortable with doing if his words are to be believed.
And I'd much rather value the assessment of the guy that had to game plan against him 6 times then I would someone like Juiced that has been wrong every step of the way thus far. That much is for sure.

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The Steelers have no QB and still didn't give Fields a serious offer. He couldn't even beat out R.Wilson who the Steelers also didn't want. But, we are suppose to believe he will find success on the JETS. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah because they banked on Justin Fields being their QB and listened to guys like on the internet who fallaciously claimed that no one wanted him as a starter Like you boy were they wrong :lol: :lol:

But he couldn't beat out Cooking Russ
:lol: :lol:


They didn't bank on him being their QB. They sat him last year when he could have been their QB. Why would they want him now but not during their playoff run?

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So give Fields that 5th year before you close the book. I'm 90% sure he's not a above average starter but I'm 99% sure he's a really good backup. That's success in my book.


In the immortal words of the great Mark Aguirre,
Let's roll the damn ball out and see. Which is what Aaron Glenn is seemingly comfortable with doing if his words are to be believed.
And I'd much rather value the assessment of the guy that had to game plan against him 6 times then I would someone like Juiced that has been wrong every step of the way thus far. That much is for sure.


We did roll the damn ball out last year and he failed. PITT sat him because he could not throw the dam ball. :lol:

What was I wrong about? He did not improve and still sucks ass. I said some bottom feeder would give him a chance.

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So give Fields that 5th year before you close the book. I'm 90% sure he's not a above average starter but I'm 99% sure he's a really good backup. That's success in my book.


In the immortal words of the great Mark Aguirre,
Let's roll the damn ball out and see. Which is what Aaron Glenn is seemingly comfortable with doing if his words are to be believed.
And I'd much rather value the assessment of the guy that had to game plan against him 6 times then I would someone like Juiced that has been wrong every step of the way thus far. That much is for sure.


We did roll the damn ball out last year and he failed. PITT sat him because he could not throw the dam ball. :lol:

What was I wrong about? He did not improve and still sucks ass. I said some bottom feeder would give him a chance.


Pittsburgh's OC and the majority of the players wanted him to replace cooking Russ. Tomlin refused. And this is validated by the fact that they targeted Fields as their QB1 immediately after the season concluded.

You clearly were wrong about him having "No Market" as anyone's starter. The Jets swooped the kid up as soon as the free agency period began.

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So give Fields that 5th year before you close the book. I'm 90% sure he's not a above average starter but I'm 99% sure he's a really good backup. That's success in my book.


In the immortal words of the great Mark Aguirre,
Let's roll the damn ball out and see. Which is what Aaron Glenn is seemingly comfortable with doing if his words are to be believed.
And I'd much rather value the assessment of the guy that had to game plan against him 6 times then I would someone like Juiced that has been wrong every step of the way thus far. That much is for sure.


We did roll the damn ball out last year and he failed. PITT sat him because he could not throw the dam ball. :lol:

What was I wrong about? He did not improve and still sucks ass. I said some bottom feeder would give him a chance.


Pittsburgh's OC and the majority of the players wanted him to replace cooking Russ. Tomlin refused. And this is validated by the fact that they targeted Fields as their QB1 immediately after the season concluded.

You clearly were wrong about him having "No Market" as anyone's starter. The Jets swooped the kid up as soon as the free agency period began.


What players wanted Fields to replace Russ? Pickens wouldn't even run his routes for Fields.

Never said he had no market. I said some loser franchise might pick him up and I was correct. If PITT really wanted him they would have paid him to stay. Not sure what you don't understand about that.

Lets see how the season unfolds in NY. Fields Cult said the same things last year and here we are with him on another team trying to prove he can throw.

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Juiced wrote:
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So give Fields that 5th year before you close the book. I'm 90% sure he's not a above average starter but I'm 99% sure he's a really good backup. That's success in my book.


In the immortal words of the great Mark Aguirre,
Let's roll the damn ball out and see. Which is what Aaron Glenn is seemingly comfortable with doing if his words are to be believed.
And I'd much rather value the assessment of the guy that had to game plan against him 6 times then I would someone like Juiced that has been wrong every step of the way thus far. That much is for sure.


We did roll the damn ball out last year and he failed. PITT sat him because he could not throw the dam ball. :lol:

What was I wrong about? He did not improve and still sucks ass. I said some bottom feeder would give him a chance.


Pittsburgh's OC and the majority of the players wanted him to replace cooking Russ. Tomlin refused. And this is validated by the fact that they targeted Fields as their QB1 immediately after the season concluded.

You clearly were wrong about him having "No Market" as anyone's starter. The Jets swooped the kid up as soon as the free agency period began.


What players wanted Fields to replace Russ? Pickens wouldn't even run his routes for Fields.

Never said he had no market. I said some loser franchise might pick him up and I was correct. If PITT really wanted him they would have paid him to stay. Not sure what you don't understand about that.

Lets see how the season unfolds in NY. Fields Cult said the same things last year and here we are with him on another team trying to prove he can throw.


You spent an entire season proclaiming him to be "just a backup".and he signed to be the Jets starter shortly after the start of Free Agency.

And your only can start for a crappy team narrative was debunked given the fact that he was Pittsburgh's first choice to be QB

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pizza_Place: not Pequod's
He should aspire to be Andy Dalton.


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