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It's not being whitewashed. Some people aren't going to spend the rest of their lives worrying about mistakes that were made back then that have been reversed for years.

It would probably be a good thing to learn a few lessons from it.

There have been lessons but every time someone, such as Fauci, admits that things should have been done different everyone ignores it or worst calls him to be jailed because he said that social distancing works with 6 feet apart and the number may have been more or less than 6 feet.


That isn't why people call for Fauci to be jailed.

He was granted a blanket pardon for repeatedly lying under oath to Congress and for illegally funding and engaging in gain of function research.

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I spent a month cumulative month locked in two hotel rooms in San Francisco and then Christchurch with forty-five minutes of “outdoor time” a day while being guarded by soldiers in September and October 2021. The idea that this shit was at all over when Joe Biden took office is just completely incongruent with fucking reality.

And this farce was 100% at the impetus of our own federal government. The New Zealanders were fine with just seven days.

There are exceptions for sure but that isn't what most were dealing with in October 2021.

What was the status of the Chicago Public School system in October 2021?


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This is coming from a catholic: Fuck him

I realize whatever media you consume can make you love or hate anybody, but the pope hating crowd is one of the most hilarious.


He was a globalist, a communist, and a pagan.

Believe what you want to believe, but he was not a man of God.


Yup, the guy that railed about too much money being in the hands of too few was absolutely a globalist.


I'm amazed that "globalist" was the description to which you objected when "pagan" was right there for you.



Too hyperbolic of a claim to bother with.

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 Post subject: Re: Pope Francis
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To the extent its even possible with something that was a defining event that affected everyday life for the better part of two years across the most of the country the media & government have basically tried to memory hole the virus.

Most people either lie about what happened or lie that everybody did the same thing. There were distinct branches of the Covidians and the more devout have definitely whitewashed it. One of the reasons people think Newsom is reasonable and viable today is they can’t think back 4-5 years.
It's not being whitewashed. Some people aren't going to spend the rest of their lives worrying about mistakes that were made back then that have been reversed for years.

Pretending things didn’t happen and not holding people accountable for their actions is whitewashing.

For example, take a guy like JB. Saying that a guy who mandated toddlers wear masks is likely a lunatic that shouldn’t be president isn’t “spending your life worrying about something.” It’s “hey, this guy is a lunatic and shouldn’t be president - here’s why.”

No one is pretending it didn't happen. It's just not worth worrying about in 2025.

Feel free not to vote for JB for President because of COVID policy. It certainly kept Trump from winning.

Not literally, no, nobody is saying Covid didn’t happen. Figuratively, your brand of whitewashing seems to be the prevailing view.

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I spent a month cumulative month locked in two hotel rooms in San Francisco and then Christchurch with forty-five minutes of “outdoor time” a day while being guarded by soldiers in September and October 2021. The idea that this shit was at all over when Joe Biden took office is just completely incongruent with fucking reality.

And this farce was 100% at the impetus of our own federal government. The New Zealanders were fine with just seven days.

There are exceptions for sure but that isn't what most were dealing with in October 2021.

What was the status of the Chicago Public School system in October 2021?

https://news.wttw.com/2021/08/28/chicago-public-schools-parents-return-person-learning

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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To the extent its even possible with something that was a defining event that affected everyday life for the better part of two years across the most of the country the media & government have basically tried to memory hole the virus.

Most people either lie about what happened or lie that everybody did the same thing. There were distinct branches of the Covidians and the more devout have definitely whitewashed it. One of the reasons people think Newsom is reasonable and viable today is they can’t think back 4-5 years.
It's not being whitewashed. Some people aren't going to spend the rest of their lives worrying about mistakes that were made back then that have been reversed for years.

Pretending things didn’t happen and not holding people accountable for their actions is whitewashing.

For example, take a guy like JB. Saying that a guy who mandated toddlers wear masks is likely a lunatic that shouldn’t be president isn’t “spending your life worrying about something.” It’s “hey, this guy is a lunatic and shouldn’t be president - here’s why.”

No one is pretending it didn't happen. It's just not worth worrying about in 2025.

Feel free not to vote for JB for President because of COVID policy. It certainly kept Trump from winning.

Not literally, no, nobody is saying Covid didn’t happen. Figuratively, your brand of whitewashing seems to be the prevailing view.

Whitewashing is not the same thing as moving past something.

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USA wrote:
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It's not being whitewashed. Some people aren't going to spend the rest of their lives worrying about mistakes that were made back then that have been reversed for years.

It would probably be a good thing to learn a few lessons from it.

There have been lessons but every time someone, such as Fauci, admits that things should have been done different everyone ignores it or worst calls him to be jailed because he said that social distancing works with 6 feet apart and the number may have been more or less than 6 feet.


That isn't why people call for Fauci to be jailed.

He was granted a blanket pardon for repeatedly lying under oath to Congress and for illegally funding and engaging in gain of function research.

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 Post subject: Re: Pope Francis
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Brick wrote:
USA wrote:
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I spent a month cumulative month locked in two hotel rooms in San Francisco and then Christchurch with forty-five minutes of “outdoor time” a day while being guarded by soldiers in September and October 2021. The idea that this shit was at all over when Joe Biden took office is just completely incongruent with fucking reality.

And this farce was 100% at the impetus of our own federal government. The New Zealanders were fine with just seven days.

There are exceptions for sure but that isn't what most were dealing with in October 2021.

What was the status of the Chicago Public School system in October 2021?

https://news.wttw.com/2021/08/28/chicago-public-schools-parents-return-person-learning

lol that didn’t last did it?


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Whitewashing is not the same thing as moving past something.

Correct, it involves minimizing actions after the fact.

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Wow! This is like a greatest hits thread. We have:

1. Covid;
2. Climate change; and
3. J6.

Plus the new smash hit: The Pope is a Pagan. All we need now are the 2020 Election, Damar Hamlin, Gaza, and Ukraine to really round this out.


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USA wrote:
Brick wrote:
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I spent a month cumulative month locked in two hotel rooms in San Francisco and then Christchurch with forty-five minutes of “outdoor time” a day while being guarded by soldiers in September and October 2021. The idea that this shit was at all over when Joe Biden took office is just completely incongruent with fucking reality.

And this farce was 100% at the impetus of our own federal government. The New Zealanders were fine with just seven days.

There are exceptions for sure but that isn't what most were dealing with in October 2021.

What was the status of the Chicago Public School system in October 2021?


CPS was in person learning in Fall of 21.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Whitewashing is not the same thing as moving past something.

Correct, it involves minimizing actions after the fact.


Intentionally failing to mention the crimes committed by Fauci is whitewashing though.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Whitewashing is not the same thing as moving past something.

Correct, it involves minimizing actions after the fact.

It's not minimizing it to move past it 5 years later. Do you intend to spend the rest of your life worried about incorrect COVID policy?

If you punched me in the face in 2020 I'd be over it now.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Brick wrote:
Whitewashing is not the same thing as moving past something.

Correct, it involves minimizing actions after the fact.

It's not minimizing it to move past it 5 years later. Do you intend to spend the rest of your life worried about incorrect COVID policy?

If you punched me in the face in 2020 I'd be over it now.

You would not be over it if there was no reconciliation or amends made for wrong-doing.

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Plus the new smash hit: The Pope is a Pagan.


I wasn't expecting that one

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anyone else think its funny that in John's resurrection story he says not once but twice that he was able to beat Peter in a footrace.

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Plus the new smash hit: The Pope is a Pagan.


I wasn't expecting that one

Great Morrisey B-side

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The one thing I have heard zero about in the review of his legacy is the closing of churches during COVID. I have a feeling that is because, just as with R and D silence about the topic during elections, everyone was complicit. I don't absolve us as laity either. In a summer of protests we should have been beating on the doors every Sunday. Still, he was the leader and part of being a leader is taking the heat.


That certainly was a mistake but was not unique to Catholicism. There were a myriad of stupid laic "policies" done by diocese's
response to Covid "protections" which really pissed off Catholic parishioners which were probably present in other faiths as well. Many Catholics became basically "shelter in place" Catholics who had enough of the result of both Biden and Francis's actions. :oops: :oops:

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Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Whitewashing is not the same thing as moving past something.

Correct, it involves minimizing actions after the fact.

It's not minimizing it to move past it 5 years later. Do you intend to spend the rest of your life worried about incorrect COVID policy?

If you punched me in the face in 2020 I'd be over it now.

It’s absolutely minimizing it to not hold people in charge responsible (to the point you’ll continue to elect them).

What’s the statute of limitations on thinking politicians acted like sociopaths?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Whitewashing is not the same thing as moving past something.

Correct, it involves minimizing actions after the fact.

It's not minimizing it to move past it 5 years later. Do you intend to spend the rest of your life worried about incorrect COVID policy?

If you punched me in the face in 2020 I'd be over it now.

It’s absolutely minimizing it to not hold people in charge responsible (to the point you’ll continue to elect them).

What’s the statute of limitations on thinking politicians acted like sociopaths?

Don't blame me. I voted against Trump.

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Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Brick wrote:
Whitewashing is not the same thing as moving past something.

Correct, it involves minimizing actions after the fact.

It's not minimizing it to move past it 5 years later. Do you intend to spend the rest of your life worried about incorrect COVID policy?

If you punched me in the face in 2020 I'd be over it now.

It’s absolutely minimizing it to not hold people in charge responsible (to the point you’ll continue to elect them).

What’s the statute of limitations on thinking politicians acted like sociopaths?

Don't blame me. I voted against Trump.

You voted for the lady who said the vaccine was dangerous because Trump was pushing it?

It seems like you’re just ignoring anything politicians said/did during Covid in an effort to minimize or cover up something unpleasant or problematic. There should be a word for that.

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You voted for the lady who said the vaccine was dangerous because Trump was pushing it?
Huh?

This Ends in Antioch wrote:
It seems like you’re just ignoring anything politicians said/did during Covid in an effort to minimize or cover up something unpleasant or problematic. There should be a word for that.

I'm not minimizing it. I'm just not spending the rest of my life worrying about mistakes.

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Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Whitewashing is not the same thing as moving past something.

Correct, it involves minimizing actions after the fact.

It's not minimizing it to move past it 5 years later. Do you intend to spend the rest of your life worried about incorrect COVID policy?

If you punched me in the face in 2020 I'd be over it now.

I imagine you'd have no choice but to get over it by now and also then.


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You voted for the lady who said the vaccine was dangerous because Trump was pushing it?
Huh?
You voted for the lady who said she wouldn’t take a vaccine if Trump said people should take a vaccine.

Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
It seems like you’re just ignoring anything politicians said/did during Covid in an effort to minimize or cover up something unpleasant or problematic. There should be a word for that.

I'm not minimizing it. I'm just not spending the rest of my life worrying about mistakes.
Weird choice of words. It’s like you’re saying you don’t consider how people governed in the past when deciding how they’ll do in the future.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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You voted for the lady who said the vaccine was dangerous because Trump was pushing it?
Huh?
You voted for the lady who said she wouldn’t take a vaccine if Trump said people should take a vaccine.

Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
It seems like you’re just ignoring anything politicians said/did during Covid in an effort to minimize or cover up something unpleasant or problematic. There should be a word for that.

I'm not minimizing it. I'm just not spending the rest of my life worrying about mistakes.
Weird choice of words. It’s like you’re saying you don’t consider how people governed in the past when deciding how they’ll do in the future.

It was unprecedented.

There are mistakes, like Trump choking, and there were lies, like the Chinese eating bats. Lie #1 of 83.


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Can we get this thread back on track and talk about how Pope Francis was literally Satan?

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Can we get this thread back on track and talk about how Pope Francis was literally Satan?


Yeah. I am not sure how he was exactly a bad guy.


I think many who profess their love of Jesus would not like him very much if he returned.

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Plus the new smash hit: The Pope is a Pagan.


I wasn't expecting that one

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You voted for the lady who said she wouldn’t take a vaccine if Trump said people should take a vaccine.
Oh, you mean the same quote she said that if Fauci said to take it then she would, and then Fauci said she should, and then she did? :lol:

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Weird choice of words. It’s like you’re saying you don’t consider how people governed in the past when deciding how they’ll do in the future.
Overall, it's a very small part of how anyone governed and EVERYONE was wrong to some degree. Even Ron DeSantis had a significant amount of COVID lockdowns in the great state of Florida.

If I'm voting for politicians being right about COVID then I'm not voting for any politician that was in a position of power during COVID. America spoke and already declared that COVID doesn't matter for Presidents. I'm fine doing the same for the hypothetical COVID failing politicians that I should still be worried about 5 years later.

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