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Supposedly Johnson really wants Jeanty which is apparently no secret since Bears first choice will be a RB is the shortest price on the board


Who is reporting that Johnson supposedly wants to select Jeanty?
I wouldn't be shocked if they think he's a difference maker and people will try to draw a connection to the Lions drafting Gibbs....no idea, but Raiders have also been heavily linked to him also.

I do think with the OL addressed (still concerns at LT and probably want some depth on the interior from this draft with the OG's with age/injuries...) and the defense pretty good (but missing pass rushers), Johnson is going to be successful, in all probability, based on his offense. This team is lacking a slot WR, LT, and upper end RB, maybe another TE. Good chance at least 2 of these are addressed early.


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Poles texted me last night and it's looking like Warren the TE


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Warren the TE


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The ultimate "whatever, whenever" player in the 2025 draft with the size, athleticism and competitive spirit to make good on his intentions. Warren plays with swagger and “best player on the field” energy. He imprints on games with alignment versatility, allowing opportunities for play-callers to stress the defense. Despite his size, he’s quick enough to beat man coverage underneath and plays with good recognition of holes in coverage. He has the ball skills and toughness to win contested catches and withstand punishing contact. He’s very capable as a lead/move blocker but will need a little improvement at sustaining blocks when blocking in-line. Warren can access all three levels of the field but is best served short and intermediate. He possesses elite football character and plays with a confidence that can be contagious. He has a chance to become one of the best tight ends in the league.

Strengths
Big, athletic, tough and competitive.
Carries a ton of alpha energy on the field.
Does whatever is necessary to help his team win.
Handled short-yardage runs with direct snaps and Wildcat looks.
Impressive early quickness and speed variance in his routes.
Hips are smooth getting in and out of his break points.
Doesn’t need much workspace to make the catch.
Unfazed by contact when securing contested catches.
Hands are natural, skilled and strong.
Runs the track and tags defenders on lead blocks.
Plays with strain and foot chop at the point of attack.

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Too easily contacted and redirected within the pattern.
Logged reps where he would coast or run nonchalant routes.
Will see limited separation as a vertical target.
Room for improvement with hand placement as a base blocker.
Hands get wide and grabby working up to second-level targets.

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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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I watched college highlights of jeanty and gibbs. Gibbs is far more elusive with higher top speed. Jeanty could follow the najee Harris path of solid but not spectacular. This analysis took 5 minutes


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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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Ryan Poles must be the kind of guy who eats dessert before the meal.

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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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They should continue to stick to the OL / DL.

They upgraded both sides of the ball, but age/injuries on the interior and the LT is an issue even if Braxton Jones is still the starter since he's not likely ready for training camp.

Defensively, they are still short pass rushers. They have given themselves options, but it's still missing 1-2 more legitimate pieces.

They're going to need another RB, WE, TE, S somewhere....but not sure these are bigger needs than focusing on the lines.


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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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It’s like they get distracted every year around this time.

Everybody knows the lines have been bad for years. The offensive line has been patchwork for years and defensively, they’re built on Sweat and not much else. This draft they need pieces on both sides of the ball. So target the line, improve depth at the fat guy positions and…OMG DID YOU SEE THAT RB?

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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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They are about one year away from the OL being in complete disarray again

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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
It’s like they get distracted every year around this time.

Everybody knows the lines have been bad for years. The offensive line has been patchwork for years and defensively, they’re built on Sweat and not much else. This draft they need pieces on both sides of the ball. So target the line, improve depth at the fat guy positions and…OMG DID YOU SEE THAT RB?


It's easy to get distracted, and even moreso, this season when you have a HC who is supposedly a genius AND they just added 3 new OL who are all major upgrades over the past season.

Defensively, Pickett/Dexter/Jarrett/Billings/Sweat/Odey are probably all locked into the team (Pickett may have to earn his spot), but that leaves ~3 roster spots. Assuming they land one DL in the first 72, then it comes down to guys like Chris Williams, Austin Booker, Daniel Hardy, Jonathan Ford battling for 2 spots.

Offensively, Dalmon/Jackson/Wright/Thuney/Jones/Kiram/Bates/Murray are all likely locked in. I suppose Murray/Bates could be competing for 1 spot, but that's 8 guys already if you include all when you're likely keeping 9. Doug Kramer is an end of roster question also. Draft 1, maybe 2 OL and it's a pretty open battle after the top 7 (including a high draft pick and Kiram in that because he's not going to be cut).

But...they have to keep adding in both area's. If they add 1 DL, 1 OL in the top 72 and then get Johnson a few pieces (RB/TE/S), its' hard to argue with the overall logic.


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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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They are about one year away from the OL being in complete disarray again


With Thuney older and Jones a year away from free agency, they have be continue adding. I still think OL is the most likely area in Round 1, but it's a crapshoot trying to guess what is the likely outcome.


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They absolutely need to add an OL with one of their first three or four picks. Jonah Jackson hasn't played a full season in a while, and the only reliable thing about Jones is his propensity for injury. And, yeah, our defensive line is bottom-of-the-barrel, so we desperately need an infusion of talent there as well.

I am guessing they will draft a tight end with their first pick (I lean towards Loveland over Warren), linemen with their next two picks, and a running back in the third round or later.

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I think there is a distinct chance the offensive line is worse this year. Last year their problem was really under center in terms of pass protection.

It depends in Thuney is cooked or not, if he is they are seriously fucked.


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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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I would seriously use all four picks on offensive line. Load up. This team is dreadful, you are going nowhere fast with this roster so you might as well get the development clock ticking on guys who will take a year or two to be contributors anyways.

They obviously won’t do that. We’ll be lucky if they take a single one really.


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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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They absolutely need to add an OL with one of their first three or four picks. Jonah Jackson hasn't played a full season in a while, and the only reliable thing about Jones is his propensity for injury. And, yeah, our defensive line is bottom-of-the-barrel, so we desperately need an infusion of talent there as well.

I am guessing they will draft a tight end with their first pick (I lean towards Loveland over Warren), linemen with their next two picks, and a running back in the third round or later.

It’d be very Bears to pay Kmet and draft Rome over Bowers, then come back a year later and pick a tight end in the top 10.

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They are about one year away from the OL being in complete disarray again


With Thuney older and Jones a year away from free agency, they have be continue adding. I still think OL is the most likely area in Round 1, but it's a crapshoot trying to guess what is the likely outcome.


With a lack of sure thing earth movers in the Oline in Round One, I think Gentry is the right pick. I think he is a generation type running back.

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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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The Hawk wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
They are about one year away from the OL being in complete disarray again


With Thuney older and Jones a year away from free agency, they have be continue adding. I still think OL is the most likely area in Round 1, but it's a crapshoot trying to guess what is the likely outcome.


With a lack of sure thing earth movers in the Oline in Round One, I think Gentry is the right pick. I think he is a generation type running back.


He's probably more likely to go #5 or #6 than lasting to #10.


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They are about one year away from the OL being in complete disarray again


With Thuney older and Jones a year away from free agency, they have be continue adding. I still think OL is the most likely area in Round 1, but it's a crapshoot trying to guess what is the likely outcome.


With a lack of sure thing earth movers in the Oline in Round One, I think Gentry is the right pick. I think he is a generation type running back.


He's probably more likely to go #5 or #6 than lasting to #10.


I believer they should trade up to get him. A great running back who also is an excellent receiver is very rare and really valuable commodity and I think he is the best that has come along for awhile. Putting he and Swift on the field together with a very mobile quarterback would be a play caller's dream.

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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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The Hawk wrote:
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They are about one year away from the OL being in complete disarray again


With Thuney older and Jones a year away from free agency, they have be continue adding. I still think OL is the most likely area in Round 1, but it's a crapshoot trying to guess what is the likely outcome.


With a lack of sure thing earth movers in the Oline in Round One, I think Gentry is the right pick. I think he is a generation type running back.


If he is a Generational Talent then I do hope the Bears do what they need to do to draft him. That way we can spend the next three years reading LTG arguing why Roschon Johnson should be RB1.

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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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They absolutely need to add an OL with one of their first three or four picks. Jonah Jackson hasn't played a full season in a while, and the only reliable thing about Jones is his propensity for injury. And, yeah, our defensive line is bottom-of-the-barrel, so we desperately need an infusion of talent there as well.

I am guessing they will draft a tight end with their first pick (I lean towards Loveland over Warren), linemen with their next two picks, and a running back in the third round or later.

It’d be very Bears to pay Kmet and draft Rome over Bowers, then come back a year later and pick a tight end in the top 10.


Ben Johnson loves 12 personnel formations.

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Tall Midget wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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They absolutely need to add an OL with one of their first three or four picks. Jonah Jackson hasn't played a full season in a while, and the only reliable thing about Jones is his propensity for injury. And, yeah, our defensive line is bottom-of-the-barrel, so we desperately need an infusion of talent there as well.

I am guessing they will draft a tight end with their first pick (I lean towards Loveland over Warren), linemen with their next two picks, and a running back in the third round or later.

It’d be very Bears to pay Kmet and draft Rome over Bowers, then come back a year later and pick a tight end in the top 10.


Ben Johnson loves 12 personnel formations.

That’s why Durham Smythe is here.

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From my 5 minutes a day of Spiegel and Holmes I've heard Spiegel loves Warren and Holmes is a Banks guy. I'll be happy with anyone but those two.

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They are about one year away from the OL being in complete disarray again


With Thuney older and Jones a year away from free agency, they have be continue adding. I still think OL is the most likely area in Round 1, but it's a crapshoot trying to guess what is the likely outcome.


With a lack of sure thing earth movers in the Oline in Round One, I think Gentry is the right pick. I think he is a generation type running back.


If he is a Generational Talent then I do hope the Bears do what they need to do to draft him. That way we can spend the next three years reading LTG arguing why Roschon Johnson should be RB1.


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The TE talk is loud enough that I think it's a lie.

I'm hoping that one of the TE get taken before 10 and the Colts call to trade up from 14 to 10 because I think they are legitimately hot for a TE.

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I am still guessing the Penn State TE. Feels like a Ben Johnson pick.

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I think they’ve been on Jeanty since the moment Ben Johnson was hired and if they can move up to get him they will.


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They will move down if they can find a trade partner.

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I think they’ve been on Jeanty since the moment Ben Johnson was hired and if they can move up to get him they will.


No trade ups!

We are in a good spot to cover a lot of needs long term with our draft capital

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If this is true, Poles needs to be disappeared ASAP and Johnson should be publicly castrated.


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BD wrote:
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They are about one year away from the OL being in complete disarray again


With Thuney older and Jones a year away from free agency, they have be continue adding. I still think OL is the most likely area in Round 1, but it's a crapshoot trying to guess what is the likely outcome.


With a lack of sure thing earth movers in the Oline in Round One, I think Gentry is the right pick. I think he is a generation type running back.


If he is a Generational Talent then I do hope the Bears do what they need to do to draft him. That way we can spend the next three years reading LTG arguing why Roschon Johnson should be RB1.


Is there room for 2 "generational talents" in the same backfield? Caleb was spotted at the urban fashionable male shopping for the 2025 version of 400$ Ed Hardy shirts and jnco pants with Jeanty earlier this year so maybe it is happening.

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Jacksonville supposedly hot on the trail of Jeanty and the Rams want Warren


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