Hate to tell ya this "Amigo", but that is sort of the essence of how life works.

Will Johnson DB from Michigan still being on the board going into the 2nd is wild to me. Many people had him close to the top 10.



I think Banks was the Bears guy but he gets nabbed right before the Bears pick -hard luck there. Loveland is a player a lot of people in here will probably love by the end of the season. He’s basically a giant WR who can block. Ben Johnson’s philosophy revolves heavily on being able to use scheme to help his players out so giving him another weapon to work with will go a long way in helping him do that.


Would like to see the Bears address DL in the 2nd with someone like Princley or even Landon Jackson but.. if Will Johnson somehow winds up available at 39 they better sprint his name up to the podium. Dudes a top 10 talent easily. As for RB I’d be ok with Judkins, Henderson, or Caleb Johnson.


Also, Luther Burden is still on the board too which is also a bit wild as he was most peoples WR 1 prior to the season. He’d be another weapon in Johnson’s hands as would Isaiah Bond out of Texas.


Bottom line is the Bears have a lot of options headed into the 2nd -Saftey still has some great talent on the board, WR, DB, DL, and RB are all still loaded and there are going to be some great prospects sitting there still at 39 and 41.

I've seen hundreds of dicks in my life.

You get moist for Caleb when you watch college football

40s for either would be individually disappointing, and that’s ignoring the resource allocation to two guys who should seemingly aspire to ~75% of Brock Bowers’ production as a collective.

Its clear what the Bears approach has been since they decided to draft Caleb last year. Thus why all of the angst and anger directed at posters who are not part of Caleb's Cult. Every significant move that they have made last season has been made specifically because they believe that Caleb is a "generational talent". From coaches to draft picks. They need to be correct about this or you can be prepared for 5 more years of losing.

At what point do the Bears stop pouring resources into the receiver position at the expense of literally everything else on the roster?

He went one spot later.

it's time you all are hauled out to the public square and shot in the face

Why wouldn't Johnson want to work with Williams? You mean aside from the fact that he struggles to read defenses, has great difficulty throwing from the pocket, and is terrifyingly inaccurate on passes longer than 7 yards down the field?

Why wouldn't he want to work with Poles? You mean aside from the fact that he demonstrably sucks at player evaluation?

Perhaps you're right and Johnson will be the franchise savior. But a lot of your thoughts have a strongly dissociative, hallucinatory quality to them. Maybe hire a round-the-clock team of cognitive and psychological therapists to address your wanton mental disorders, get on some meds, and check back in a few months from now. I have confidence you'll be able to make a modicum of sense at that time.

By the way, who's Clay Williams? One of your imaginary "friends"? Get the dead mouse out of your pocket and try to reconnect with reality.

Caleb Williams isn't really a "true" rookie because he turned 23 late into his 1st season in the NFL!"

They poured a ton of resources into the O-line and D-line in free agency.

it's time you all are hauled out to the public square and shot in the face

You missed my point about working with Poles. Johnson looks like he was given authority over player personal when he was hired. Making your concern with Poles player evaluation mute.

What is a more dissociative or hallucinatory thought? Giving Caleb 1 year with a bad coaching staff and no oline and deciding he is not the QB of the future or pausing judgment on a kid until he has at least one season with a qualified coaching staff and oline?

I wanted to look up the word modicum but was not sure what would show up in my google search.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

I haven't made up my mind about Caleb yet. But I think it's clear that a lot of signs are pointing in the wrong direction.

NFL team trying to setup their young quarterback to succeed. This type of thinking could revolutionize the sport.

I've seen hundreds of dicks in my life.

You get moist for Caleb when you watch college football

And this is considering Caleb still had some good games last year, made some brilliant plays, and wound up with solid stats too.

A lot of stuff has come out about his 1st year experience including Caleb having to reach out to other people to break down film with him because Waldron couldn’t or wouldn’t, they didn’t script opening plays, they’ve already replaced most of their O-line in just this one off season and the OC, HC were fired mid season and he had to work with 3 different OC’s in just his rookie year..


Id like to know any QB veteran or rookie anyone could name that would thrive or look good under those circumstances. And this is considering Caleb still had some good games last year, made some brilliant plays, and wound up with solid stats too.. while dealing with all that chaos

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

People said almost exactly the same thing about Fields, too. This post perfectly exemplifies the culture of denial that surrounds the Bears.

No, there were never reports that coaches weren’t helping Justin break down film, he did not go thru 3 OC’s and an HC in his rookie season, there were no reports that I’m aware of that they weren’t scripting plays.


Yes there were mistakes made around Justin too that weren’t fair to him, but not to this level.


It’s insane to not break down film with your QB.

I've seen hundreds of dicks in my life.

You get moist for Caleb when you watch college football

It truly would be "revolutionary" for someone to think that it is a great idea to purchase a lemon at Ferrarri prices

Fuck Green Bay!

LTG wasn’t entirely wrong about Caleb, and I want to acknowledge that. While I’m still confident Fields wouldn’t have been the long-term answer, the Bears would have been a playoff team with him at quarterback last year. Caleb wasn’t ready. Not because he isn’t wildly talented—but because he’s too immature. Kmet, Keenan, Swift, Thomas Brown, and others either directly or indirectly told us that. He was present in the building and working, but he wasn’t doing the right work.

His final totals look fine for a rookie, but nothing about the eye test said “elite,” outside of a few late-game moments. I’m reminded that (Pro Bowl QB) (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky also had some big late game moments. I still believe in Caleb, but this is a HUGE year. No excuses. He has the talent around him and an excellent offensive coach.

I didn’t love the Ben Johnson hire initially, but I’m on board now. His track record is solid, and he’s got that necessary fire in his eyes. He’s a bullshitter who loves the sound of his own voice—but I’ll tolerate that if he delivers a top 5–10 offense. Despite a tough schedule, he believes we can be a playoff team next season. That directly contradicts the narrative that this roster lacks talent because Poles “sucks.” It also raises the bar on his rookie season.

I didn’t like the Loveland pick, but Ben Johnson deserves the benefit of the doubt. Poles looked like a hostage during the press conference last night, so I’m guessing he didn’t love the pick either. Banks was his guy, and I’m glad Banks wasn’t available—because Banks is soft and should probably be a guard.

I thought Will Johnson was the best player in this draft and wanted him or Pearce at 10. Naturally, Will Johnson is still on the board.

Day 2/3 picks:

I really like Ersery, Ezeiruaku, Scourton, and Chase Lundt for our line. I’d be happy with 1 or 2 of them. Outside of an edge rusher, I think both lines are good.

Will Johnson is a lockdown corner who eliminates the need to rely on Stevenson. Stevenson could be transitioned to safety—either as a backup or a future replacement for CTE Brisker or Byard.

Swift can’t be your featured back. A featured back needs vision. I can’t keep watching him ignore holes and run straight into his own linemen 20 times a game. The Bears should draft Henderson, Brashard Smith, Jarquez Hunter, DJ Giddens, or RJ Harvey. I’d slit my wrist if they drafted Skattebo.

I hope all is well. I'll pop back in during the season.

Go Bears!!!

No, there were never reports that coaches weren’t helping Justin break down film, he did not go thru 3 OC’s and an HC in his rookie season, there were no reports that I’m aware of that they weren’t scripting plays.


Yes there were mistakes made around Justin too that weren’t fair to him, but not to this level.


It’s insane to not break down film with your QB.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

There is video of Waldron trying to talk to Caleb during games being completely blown off by him too. And the "break down film" narrative might have been Caleb not wanting to sit in with Waldron. I just cannot buy that an OC whose job deoends on working with his "Generational Talent" QB would risk it by completely blowing the kid off.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

The specific weren't exactly the same, of course, but the coaches were blamed for Fields inadequacies just like they were blamed last year for the poor performance of a quarterback who wasn't close to being ready for the NFL.

Bears would have been a playoff team with him at quarterback last year.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

The story sounds preposterous, but people would apparently rather believe the ridiculous than believe their eyes.

Mike Green is still available too. I know he might be a creeper but if he’s still there at 39 he’d be worth looking at. But his slide has me worried that teams investigating him aren’t liking what they’re finding out.

Jaxon Smith Njigba made similar comments after the Bears hired him, Mercedes Lewis brought it up in an interview.. this stuff didn’t come out of no where and it didn’t come from Caleb. Other teammates pointed out Caleb had to reach out to other sources for film study.

Fuck Green Bay!

LTG wasn’t entirely wrong about Caleb, and I want to acknowledge that. While I’m still confident Fields wouldn’t have been the long-term answer, the Bears would have been a playoff team with him at quarterback last year. Caleb wasn’t ready. Not because he isn’t wildly talented—but because he’s too immature. Kmet, Keenan, Swift, Thomas Brown, and others either directly or indirectly told us that. He was present in the building and working, but he wasn’t doing the right work.

His final totals look fine for a rookie, but nothing about the eye test said “elite,” outside of a few late-game moments. I’m reminded that (Pro Bowl QB) (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky also had some big late game moments. I still believe in Caleb, but this is a HUGE year. No excuses. He has the talent around him and an excellent offensive coach.

I didn’t love the Ben Johnson hire initially, but I’m on board now. His track record is solid, and he’s got that necessary fire in his eyes. He’s a bullshitter who loves the sound of his own voice—but I’ll tolerate that if he delivers a top 5–10 offense. Despite a tough schedule, he believes we can be a playoff team next season. That directly contradicts the narrative that this roster lacks talent because Poles “sucks.” It also raises the bar on his rookie season.

I didn’t like the Loveland pick, but Ben Johnson deserves the benefit of the doubt. Poles looked like a hostage during the press conference last night, so I’m guessing he didn’t love the pick either. Banks was his guy, and I’m glad Banks wasn’t available—because Banks is soft and should probably be a guard.

I thought Will Johnson was the best player in this draft and wanted him or Pearce at 10. Naturally, Will Johnson is still on the board.

Day 2/3 picks:

I really like Ersery, Ezeiruaku, Scourton, and Chase Lundt for our line. I’d be happy with 1 or 2 of them. Outside of an edge rusher, I think both lines are good.

Will Johnson is a lockdown corner who eliminates the need to rely on Stevenson. Stevenson could be transitioned to safety—either as a backup or a future replacement for CTE Brisker or Byard.

Swift can’t be your featured back. A featured back needs vision. I can’t keep watching him ignore holes and run straight into his own linemen 20 times a game. The Bears should draft Henderson, Brashard Smith, Jarquez Hunter, DJ Giddens, or RJ Harvey. I’d slit my wrist if they drafted Skattebo.

I hope all is well. I'll pop back in during the season.

Go Bears!!!

Caleb Williams isn't really a "true" rookie because he turned 23 late into his 1st season in the NFL!"

Context matters tho if you’re going to say it’s the same type of denial compared to Fields.


It’s hard to be ready for the NFL when you’re starting out with poor coaching. Even veteran QB’s would struggle with that.


There aren’t many teams -let alone an individual rookie player- that could come out of a season well off where the HC, and OC are canned halfway thru the year and they rotate multiple coordinators throughout the season. That’s a really big distinction between the two situations.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.