It may be contractual that you have to give Poles at least one overdrafted bum each year.

The more I see of Burden, the more I like him. He seems like exactly the type of guy they need and actually brings a skill set they haven’t duplicated across the whole position group.

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The corner may end up being decent, but the priority should have been to acquire depth on the IOL. Jonah Jackson hasn't played a complete season in a few years, and Thuney is old. What are they going to do if one or both of those guys goes down for a few games or longer?

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Burden is an admission by them that they missed on Odunze

Every year Bears fans think “this is the year they just cannot ignore the offensive line any longer” and every year the Bears ignore it to draft a bunch of flashy bullshit. Either the new failure quarterbacks or some new shiny wide receiver who is just going to be running sprints all game while the front seven is a complete shitshow.

Do you guys REALLY think the Chiefs would’ve dealt Joe Thuney if they thought he had another elite year left in the tank? Let alone however many years the Bears are going to lock him up to on a huge contract this summer.

They just do the absolute bare minimum in the trenches to show that “look we aren’t ignoring it” while each year the depth is paper thin and the starters ain’t shit. It’s just a shitshow.

Tyler Scott, Venus Jones Jr., Rome Odunze…man if you think Burden will be any different I got bad news for you.

See this is more bullshit from you. The year the Bears use their top pick on an offensive lineman, you whine that they should have used it on someone else.

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Because that was the year there was a Hall of Fame three technique sitting right there for the taking. They were just afraid of drafting him because they thought they would fuck him up, which should be the end of their careers just in and of itself.

Different skill sets. Odunze is going to be a big body possession guy (maybe, if he gets good). Burden is a shifty YAC guy who’d eventually take over from Moore.

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Be honest, do you think Jalen Carter wouldn’t be neck deep in DUIs if he landed under Flus?

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Burden pick has nothing to do with Odunze. It was about a huge talent being there and they could not pass him up. If anything he is going to fill the hole left by Allen.

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Allen is another possession guy. I thought he & Rome had a similar skill set (disclaimer: I know one is a HoF guy and the other is not).

The Bears haven’t had a legitimate shifty YAC guy who’s a real deep threat - a Diggs type - in a while. I’m not saying their pass catchers haven’t been good, it just seems like they’ve gone bargain hunting for the Duverneys of the world to fill that type of role whereas Burden seems like a whole different thing.

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Yeah I am in agreement with you. I was not meaning that Burden would be a possession guy like Allen. They are completely different receivers. They saw an opening in the receiver room with Allen gone and could not pass up the talent that was there on the board in Burden at that spot. Odunze has to have a better second year and he really should excel with Allen not there.

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Literally DJ Moore.

Sounds like you are politely saying Odunze is slow

He’s not a speedy deep threat. He’s a deebo.

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He’s not quick or fast. He’s a big body that should be able to be a big target and get 7yds when you need them. Basically what Keenan Allen was last year.

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I was less than enthused with Odunze's year for a guy taken that high.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Odunze split time in two receiver sets with Allen last year due to their nearly identical skill sets. That limited his reps some. Odunze was also often the 3rd or 4th read depending on the personnel. He looked great as a route runner last year and put up good numbers despite some of those prior mentions being part of his equation.


Basically he was their #3 receiver last year. And he was fine in that role. I think it’s also important to point out that we had complete morons running the team last year so that will obviously effect things too.


Rome will be the #2 this year or possibly the #1. Things are going to look a lot different for him this season imo

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Odunze hating needs to chill. He produced just fine for a rookie wr. History bodes well for wr who produce what he did in his rookie year

Yep. Remember the game Allen missed against the Colts in Indy? Odunze: 6 catches for 112 yards and a TD. That was his 3rd NFL game.

For a team badly needing help in the pass rush, O-line, RB and most likely safety to come out of a draft deep at all of those positions with the same question marks at all those positions.. yeah thats not an 'ok' or 'fine' draft imo.


Listening to some of their directors of personnel attempt to explain away why some of this happened is even more damning because it basically meant they made very little adjustments to scouting for the new coaching staff coming in. It was basically just 'well these were the guys we had high on our boards for the last year now' -which all but confirms my suspicions that Ben Johnson had very little to do with this draft outside of maybe the 1st two picks. He had to rely on intel from the same complete morons who have been fucking up our drafts for the last few years now.


The trading back constantly and basically getting fleeced by better GM's was icing on the cake. Especially considering Poles has been fleeced several times now by the Bills over the last couple years -like them trading us back one of our own picks we gave them for a lineman they were going to cut anyway last year that barley saw the field for us last year.


Heres my overall take on this -Poles and company are betting on Ben Johnson and Dennis Allen coaching their way out of their blunders in the personnel department. And while I'm the 1st one to bring up how much coaching matters, you also need the right players too. Its all pieces to a puzzle and the Bears are top heavy at a few skill positions while severely lacking in proven commodities at key positions like Edge and O-line. Poles has done this every single year he's been here and still hasn't learned his lesson. He continues to treat a 'rebuild' like hes just one player away while plugging holes with either older players who may fall off a cliff like Thuney or players who have never really done anything since theyve been in the league like Odenigbo.


Bottome line? Poles is terrible in the draft and continues to show his ass in that department. Loveland and Burden should be fine but after that they've taken a whole shit load of reaches. More than I've ever seen from a Bears draft and that goes all the way back to around 1990 when I started watching the draft coverage. This is without a doubt -on paper- the worst draft I've ever seen from a Bears front office.

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I dont think the OT and DT taken in the 2nd round are reaches. They were both taken about where most expected them to go. The LB is an awful reach that still makes no sense. The CB seems to be someone that their new DB coach begged for. So hopefully he is right. Would have been nice to get some more help on the lines with that pick.

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Both were reaches, most boards had them rated much lower then where they were taken. Tripoli can't even play out of a 3 point stance for crying out loud and is a liability in the run game.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Idk. Guess it depends on where and who you read. There were mock drafts that I read that had both going in the 2nd round. This is from CBS.

Neither seems like reaches.

Trapilo



Shemar Turner

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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I know it's fun to talk and argue about who'll be good and who'll be bad/who was a reach and who wasn't ---- but we're not going to know now. Hate to be that guy but don't waste your time. It's going to take a season and a half or so to figure out which picks were hits and which were misses.

It’s this. The Bears do not deserve the benefit of any doubt. But I feel like all of us fans are programmed to think they automatically made bad picks. Ben Johnson and these drafted players deserve a chance to go out and prove us wrong.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

This is literally the only active Chicago sports franchise right now.

Literally.

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USA,
Was this draft too woke?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

That is a ridiculous statement.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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This guy

We are only a couple of months away from the situation and you are either forgetting or purposely misremembering the facts of the situation. The Chiefs had the choice between signing their 26 year old OL in FA or keeping Thuney, because of previous heavy investment on the line. They couldn't keep both. Remember, the Bears were going to sign him to a big deal if he hit FA.

Chiefs would have loved to brought back, not Pro Bowl but All Pro guard Joe Thuney.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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