Oline seems ok but either they can’t pass block or the QB play is that bad.

Defense seems pretty rough without much hope for improvement, aside from a few guys.

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If that doesn't show you that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was not the problem I don't know what does.

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We can continue to eat up bandwidth yappin' about the roster forever, but the brutal truth is that nobody will really know about many of the offensive players until Nagy/Pace are gone, it is really hard to tell get an evaluation of many players until Nagy's inept coaching and Pace's even more inept player evaluation skills are removed from the equation.

Watching the Pats/Bills game where the HC formulated a game plan to best take advantage of the situation and didn't care if he looked like the smartest guy in the room by calling pretty plays really exposed Nagy who would likely be going through withdrawal if he only called two pass plays in a quarter. Then again, competent HC/GM combos understand that you build an offensive line first and if you can physically control the line of scrimmage and run the ball you will have a competitive NFL team.

Or how much Fields wasn't ready to play. Dalton has not only thrown for over 200 yards in every game he's completed, but he has 300 fewer passing yards than Fields despite Fields playing significantly more games.

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The Bears are a very good running team right now.

Nagy just doesn't want them to be a running team. It is considered an outdated style of offense.

This Bears team could have won by being boring and pounding the ball with the run.

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part of that though is that teams expect the pass and so no matter how many times you run, they revert back to protect against the pass. But it would be a good strategy. Look at the Bills/Pats game on Monday night.

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I have nothing to back this up, but I can’t imagine opposing defenses are scheming to stop the pass when Nagy comes up on the schedule.

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The Bills easily win if Josh Allen could score in the red zone.

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The third string running back put up a string of great games running behind the third string OT.

The Bears have been efficient with the run for two years straight. Nagy finds running to be offensive to his coaching ideals.

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One of my favorite Jiggs sayings was, "If it's and but's were candy and nuts everyday would be Christmas".

Watched a bit of the Manning cast and they gave you the nugget that Belichick identifies mismatches everywhere, he will then call plays to get a matchup with an offensive lineman against a defensive lineman, call run plays all day if he thinks his guy will win the one on one matchup.

Nagy not only does not know if his guy can win the one on one matchup, he doesn't call plays to attack backup guys, if fact he calls play that go at the best defenders on the other team, a type of coaching ineptitude or more likely arrogance that usually leads to a short NFL coaching career.

Nagy sucks, but Belichick is way better than every coach in the league.

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It's not a black and white, either or.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky may not have been THE problem, but he certainly wasn't THE solution either. Part the Bears failures are his fault, part of it is Nagy's, part of it is Pace and the roster, part of it ownership. There's a lot of blame to go around and while I agree (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky does not get and should not get 100% of the blame, he was still culpable.

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Right Frank. Dues to the coaching though I can't tell you with 100% certainty Fields is any better than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. Probably, yeah. Certainly, no.

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Sure, but we didn't know what (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was under John Fox either. Fields has time on his side. There's a reason (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is a backup right now.

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I want Fields to be a HOFer.

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I'm certainly not rooting against him and while I'm somewhat discouraged by his play this year, I am more than willing to give him a mulligan on the season due to being a rookie and playing under Matt Nagy.

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I thought the issue with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was that he wasn't able to throw an accurate deep ball and so the offense was limited and ground to a halt since the D could load up knowing they couldn't get beat on the deep routes.

And I would concur that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky wasn't accurate on most deep throws.

So, Fields has shown he is accurate on many deep routes. But, they still don't throw many deep routes. And this offense still doesn't work. There seem to be many reasons they don't do this. The O-line was pretty awful in pass protection. Better lately with the new personnel but still not great.

I don't understand why they didn't have Fields play to his strengths a bit more and do more RPO. They did more recently with him and I thought it was effective.

Fields needs work but they didn't give it to him with The Andy Dalton Project in place all Summer.

In summary, Nagy is shooting a shotgun at a dartboard and hoping for the best.

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(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was 25-13 as a starter his last 3 years here. The Bears were 3-7 without him.

If you want to count (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's rookie year it is still 29-21 and 4-10 without him.

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Then why aren't you suggesting the 1-9 or whatever jaguars cut Lawrence and sign Mitch? Because you know records aren't a good indicator of QB play.

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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Fields has sucked at the short and intermediate throws. Both things that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was good at. I imagine that Fields accuracy in those areas will improve as the game slows down for him and when he stops trying to hit a home run on every play.

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But all the numbers, every single one of them, has (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky far and away ahead of the other Nagy/Pace quarterbacks. QB record is just the easiest way to convey it. Foles, Dalton, Fields were all supposed to be "upgrades" over (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

Lawrence is going to be a bigger bust than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky if he doesn't improve quickly so I don't really think you are making a good argument there.

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Don't understand? What rock have you been living under, doc

They're incompetent

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T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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I generally agree with that. I think he doesn't decide quickly enough. The throws are more late than bad.

But, that's reps (hopefully - but maybe it never comes however I think it will). And a full Summer of that as "the guy" could have helped with that. But, that's over. Time to move on.

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This does not refute anything I said, and Mitch is 0-2 in payoff games started.

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It's not the easiest, it's the most misleading in this context. If you were in a room with the Bears 2018 defense would you still stay with a straight face that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was 12-4 that year?

I don't dispute that Foles and Dalton have failed to distinguish themselves all that much from (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. It's too early on Fields. Like Frank said, it's not either or - Nagy and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky can suck at the same time. I'm just glad you used bust and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in the same sentence.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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You said that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky wasn't THE solution.
Matt Nagy when he starts (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky: 25-15
Matt Nagy when he starts anyone else: 7-15

To me, that indicates (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky may have been the only reason we've had any sort of success given the huge disparity in results and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky playing the most important position on a football team.

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(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was very good that year. He certainly gets credit.

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Given that he is no longer on the Bears and signed a deal to be a backup quarterback, I'm pretty confident in saying I'm correct.

If (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was indeed THE solution, he would be starting on an NFL team somewhere. If he was THE solution, he probably would have won a playoff game.

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