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Nas

Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:49 pm

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Trevor Lawrence may finish their career as the first female QB in the history of the NFL.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:49 pm

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Jaw Breaker wrote:

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Fields was one of the most exciting prospects to enter the NFL in many years, he excelled in a top program, he won some big games under pressure, and he was considered more or less the same level of talent as Trevor Lawrence from the time both QBs emerged in Georgia.

There are/were many reasons to believe he can succeed at a high level in the NFL.

I remember suggesting Fields was a brighter prospect than Lawrence right after his beat down of Clemson, but I also think there had to be legit reasons he was the sixth QB taken in the draft.

Yup, we saw last year that he doesn't understand how to play in the pocket. Hopefully that changes. I don't have questions about his physical ability. It's the mental aspect of the game where he needs to prove himself.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:59 pm

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Nas wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

Bernstein using small sample size as an indicator of future success huh? Interesting.
Remember those couple of throws he had?

Hell, Mitch had some nice throws too.

Bernstein's point is that Fields may not have a great statistical year, but he needs to make great plays consistently in practice and in games to convince him that he can be the long-term answer at QB. Bernstein says that "greatness doesn't hide" and thus Fields needs to demonstrate greatness on a regular basis.

Bernstein is no longer a Fields apologist. Like Hoge and Jahns, he has adjusted his position on Fields without announcing he has adjusted his position on Fields. The fact that all three analysts have quickly lost faith in Fields suggests that their praise for Fields was grounded more in disdain for Nagy than it was in appreciation for Fields' ability.

It came off as disingenuous support because he was black.

I think Justin Fields is better than Tom Brady.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:00 pm

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Brick wrote:

Nas wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

Bernstein using small sample size as an indicator of future success huh? Interesting.
Remember those couple of throws he had?

Hell, Mitch had some nice throws too.

It came off as disingenuous support because he was black.

I think Justin Fields is better than Tom Brady.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:04 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

Nas wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

There's nothing anyone can say that will convince me that wasn't the case for MANY reporters in Chicago and around the country.

I mean just look at his treadmill work !! No other qb does this !! And he was on vacation to boot !! (stuff like this doesnt come off as pandering at all )

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:54 pm

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The bears probably have a 4 hours a week treadmill clause in his contract.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:14 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Nas wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

There's nothing anyone can say that will convince me that wasn't the case for MANY reporters in Chicago and around the country.

I mean just look at his treadmill work !! No other qb does this !! And he was on vacation to boot !! (stuff like this doesnt come off as pandering at all )

What does this tweet prove in your mind?

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:21 pm

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That he can probably run an 8-minute mile.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:52 pm

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Things are starting great!

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:57 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Things are starting great!

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:59 pm

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Must be the O-line’s fault….oh wait.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:07 pm

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denisdman wrote:

Must be the O-line’s fault….oh wait.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:09 pm

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Fields starts 0-4 with an interception off of Harry's Hands.

Finishes session 5/10 with a drop by Blasingame that would have made him 6/10.

So he missed his first four then completed 5/6 and should have been 6/6.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:11 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

Things are starting great!

Fields just showing Eberflus what he learned from Nagy's playbook.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:11 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

Nas has taught you well. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:21 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Nas has taught you well. :lol:

What are you doing in a Bears thread? I think another Packer just went down with a knee injury.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:39 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Nas has taught you well. :lol:

What are you doing in a Bears thread? I think another Packer just went down with a knee injury.

Pot meet Kettle, do you want me to count your post total in the Packers thread to my post total here?

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:42 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Nas has taught you well. :lol:

What are you doing in a Bears thread? I think another Packer just went down with a knee injury.

Pot meet Kettle, do you want me to count your post total in the Packers thread to my post total here?

Did the Packers play football or shoot paint guns today?

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:44 pm

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:45 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Nas has taught you well. :lol:

What are you doing in a Bears thread? I think another Packer just went down with a knee injury.

Pot meet Kettle, do you want me to count your post total in the Packers thread to my post total here?

No, I'd rather you count the days until Bakhtiari returns from his injury. Can you count to infinity?

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:46 pm

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Nas wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Nas has taught you well. :lol:

What are you doing in a Bears thread? I think another Packer just went down with a knee injury.

Pot meet Kettle, do you want me to count your post total in the Packers thread to my post total here?

Did the Packers play football or shoot paint guns today?

Practiced but it must have been too much because they are off tomorrow.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:58 pm

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Hawg Ass wrote:

Nas wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Nas has taught you well. :lol:

What are you doing in a Bears thread? I think another Packer just went down with a knee injury.

Pot meet Kettle, do you want me to count your post total in the Packers thread to my post total here?

Did the Packers play football or shoot paint guns today?

Practiced but it must have been too much because they are off tomorrow.

A rest day after 2 days? Tevin Jenkins wants to play for the Packers.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:42 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

Hawg Ass wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

Nas has taught you well. :lol:

What are you doing in a Bears thread? I think another Packer just went down with a knee injury.

You mean ex-Packer.

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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:52 am

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His improved throwing motion is really noticeable here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkgXsaF-_sU

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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:05 am

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Nas wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

I remember suggesting Fields was a brighter prospect than Lawrence right after his beat down of Clemson, but I also think there had to be legit reasons he was the sixth QB taken in the draft.

His attitude and his dedication to the game. He has pretty much every tool you need to play at an elite level.

The dude has the physical ability to be a QB1, but success at the NFL level depends more on your ability to instantaneously recognize flaws in the defense and then deliver and accurate and on time throw. If it was all about just athletic ability teams would simply go to track meets and grab the top decathletes, so Bruce Jenner would be the ideal QB1, seems Lawrence is already transitioning, so maybe that is not too far off.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:52 am

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Clawmaster wrote:

Nas wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

I remember suggesting Fields was a brighter prospect than Lawrence right after his beat down of Clemson, but I also think there had to be legit reasons he was the sixth QB taken in the draft.

His attitude and his dedication to the game. He has pretty much every tool you need to play at an elite level.

I agree. Lawrence is definitely transitioning.

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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:08 am

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It’s spelled Laurence . He’s very particular about that.

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:53 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

It’s spelled Laurence . He’s very particular about that.

Don't call me Larry!

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Post subject: Re: I'm Starting to Doubt Fields

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:52 am

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Seacrest wrote:

His improved throwing motion is really noticeable here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkgXsaF-_sU

no its not

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Find more interesting the effort by the "Bears Media" to put a positive spin on his work during yesterdays "closed" practice. Not sure if they get that this makes them seem much less credible and chases people to more independent podcasts or out of town takes for actual real information about the team.

They used to toss around the term "out of town stupid" to dismiss sports thoughts from national media types, but that was back when you had guys like Uncle Terry, Mac, and North openly challenging and questioning the Bears Organization.

It seems that given the current state of local sports media and the seemingly endless need to protect the McKaskey family, especially from the hapless and hopeless Hubert Arkush who seems to be the arbiter of Bears takes, we instead need a new term, "In town stupid", your welcome.

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